The idea started innocently enough: I thought it would be good to know my neighbors.
Leaving my last apartment after five years, it had felt odd that I only knew one neighbor’s name - and that was only because she was a former opera singer and used to give me singing tips when we’d do laundry.
So, with the best of intentions, I began my first weeks on 96th street determined to know everyone in my new building on a first-name basis. Well, everyone on my floor, at least.
However, months into living here, I am coming to understand why many city neighbors dodge eye contact in the elevator and prefer to maintain whatever anonymity they can.
The sweet lesbian couple across the hall seemed harmless at first: a cup of sugar here, a borrowed battery there. But recently they asked if they could “rent my bathroom” while I’m in Barcelona this summer, as their own bathroom is pending renovation. I eagerly agreed to let them use mine for a couple of weeks, and told them I couldn’t even think of taking money for it. It wasn't a big deal.
Days later, however, I saw their apartment for the first time: after twenty years of apartment living, their home was an utter sty. Newspapers piled high, cockroaches (eek!) in the tub, and a layer of dust thick enough to qualify as sand. I’d agreed to let these nice ladies use my apartment this summer, and then discovered they were actually Frat Boys.
Then, last week, their visiting parents knocked on my door. They wanted to meet me. I know I wanted to meet my neighbors, but their parents?
I mean, I haven’t even met my boyfriend’s parents yet. TF
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I'm not sure how to respond here. Living in NYC is very hard precisely because people avoid each other and keep to themselves. It's difficult to maintain a social life without having to go out and spend a great deal of money.
I too would love to know my neighbors, but something about NYC makes people retreat into cocoons. In another city or town, perhaps TF would have been invited to coffee by the neighbors before being asked to rent her bathroom.
Somehow, it seems to me that one could live in a much less alienated way if neighbors here consented to socialize--inviting each other into their homes and the like. The BIG FAVORS--renting bathrooms and such--could be asked only of those one becomes close with.
I would welcome a village-y feel in my neighborhood--indeed in my building--and would love to be able to socialize within my little corner of New York.
Why are people so wary in this city?
8 million people...you can't be nice to them all (and vice versa)
It's one thing to be friendly but another to impose on you to use your bathroom.
That's ridiculous.
I'm trying to make an effort to meet my neighbors as well but a line must be drawn.
There are advantages to knowing [or at least recognising] everyone, even the crazy people. I once lived in an apartment building near Ave A with only five apartments. I was coming home late one night and someone caught the door after me. Even though I didn't know everyone by name, I did know that this guy probably didn't live there. The first two floors were families with young children, and above them were a gay couple, then my roommates, and a woman who was constantly in California. This guy looked like he was around my age, and everyone else in the building was older than my roommate and me. I checked the mail so he had to get out his keys. He dug through his bag. I felt rude, but if he was staying with someone or really lived there, he could have told me or buzzed someone. Ten awkward minutes later, he apologised and left. I wasn't certain what he wanted, but if I hadn't vaguely known the people in the building, I would have just let him in.
TF--
You are hilarious and I look forward to your new posts. I'm guessing that if your nice neighboring Frat-ettes read this post, your problem may solve itself. But in my wildest DREAMS I would never ask for extended access to someone's bathroom. And the thing about the parents is just plain wacky.
I think knowing your neighbors has a lot to do with individual personality. I lived in a townhome once for three years, and then my sister took it over from me. Not even three weeks later, she told me, "Doug and Patty are getting a divorce!" I said, "Who the hell are Doug and Patty?"
Several years ago I came home one night to find my neighbor passed out in the elevator. I didn't want anything to happen to her so I woke her up. She'd lost her keys and her roommate wasn't home so I brought her into my apartment. She was slurring her appreciation and sat on my bed while I put sheets on the futon. Suddenly she jumped up and I noticed a stain on the corner of my bed. She tried to say that the wet spot was from the rain but unless she walked home on her hands she PEED ON MY BED. So between her and the neighbor who asked for beer money on a regular basis, I became a little less friendly with my neighbors.
So in that one case, I would have been happy if she asked to use my bathroom!
I think TF stands for "Too Friendly'. That was an amazing, kind gesture to lend out your bathroom.
I suppose the city makes many of us defensive, maybe that is why I was shocked by your act of generosity. Back on the farm of my childhood, that would have been a very safe and neighborly gesture. I know that in my current building I would be very hesitant to do something like that.
But it would be more because I think they would gossip about my apartment in the laundry room, which seems to be where all important information is passed along.
Well, there's being friendly to your neighbors... and then there's being friendly to your neighbors.
I've recently gotten caught up in a situation with an elderly couple that lives down the way from me. Husband and wife in their late 80's... the wife has mid-to-advanced Alzheimers (tries to escape their apartment while NAKED, thinks her husband of 60 years is her high school boyfriend and calls him by the wrong name) and the husband has early Alzheimers and has begun having seizures. (He was hospitalized for three days recently, and another neighbor and I took in his wife as she cannot be left alone/unsupervised. OY.)
They have NO family, desperately need a legal guardian, and must move to assisted living as they are being evicted due to property endangerment. (Wife has been turning on the gas stove and leaving the burners on, while running the heat at 90 degrees. Anyone else see the potential catastrophic problems when the themostat clicks on?)
And, while helping them with bills, I discovered that their "financial advisor" has talked them into making him the beneficiary of their estate.
I'm trying to find honest, certified help for them through the maze of city/county/state services but keep getting referral blow-offs. Very frustrating and disheartening.
No, I'm not related to them, but I cannot imagine NOT trying to help them. My grandmother had Alzheimers (died of it about a year ago) and the whole family was supportive to the end. But this situation, with no family... well, that's where a neighbor comes in handy.
I used to live in a townhome and never had any problem with any of my neighbors until one day a woman, who had taken over her brother's apartment, moved in and immediately started having an affair with my wife! Well... ex-wife. ; )
Anne, God bless you.
I used to live in a townhome and never had any problem with any of my neighbors until one day a woman, who had taken over her brother's apartment, moved in and immediately started having an affair with my wife! Well... ex-wife. Love thy neighbor, indeed! ; )
Anne, God bless you.
Anne--
You're a neighbor worth knowing the name of.
You can borrow my bathroom any time.
Hi Anne,
I admire you so! You are indeed a good neighbor and a good samaritan. I wish you lived in my building--more people ought to be like you.
My hat is off to you,
Terry
This posting has inspired me to stage a sort of "block party" for the neighbors. I wonder whether anyone will come?
i like to think that neighbors in new york will reach out in an emergency. new yorkers are busy people and what might seem like unfriendly behavior is just focus the next thing on the agenda. it' always good to have some neighbors who know you, it helps when little emergencies crop up. ( borrowing a quarter in the laundry room, not having your key and they buzz you into the building, etc.)
TF - I new you meant to be friendly, but I would definitely find a sitter/subletter for your house while you are away in Barcelona. Then politely and frimly tell you neighbors that somethings come up and that 'friends are in town' and sadly you will be unable to accomodate their bathroom privileges.
Your neighbors getting o so comfortable with your abode and will still hanker for your shower even more when you are back with some sad excuse that the contractor never finished the job. I'm sorry TF you need to nip this one in the bud.
Anne, contact the Legal Aid Society immediately. They will direct you as to what you need to do. The "beneficiary" is a classic predator and needs to be stopped. Otherwise, what will happen is the "beneficiary" will have your elderly couple committed, and then take everything. Trust me, those folks will end up in a state run hell-hole if no one does anything for them. I've run across this before. Make sure you have proof of what the "beneficiary" is up to.
Justin, I've reported him to the state board that handles his licensing, and my next-door neighbor who's also been involved with this has enlisted her father's help; he's a prominent attorney.
The couple has ample financial resources and can pay for much better than a state-run home, so that's a blessing. The neighbor and I have found a place for them that will be clean and is well-run from what we can tell and has a good reputation locally... and they will get to be in the same room together, which I think is very important.
The very, very difficult thing here is that the husband will not acknowledge that they need help. He doesn't believe they can be evicted (but can no longer grasp the terms of a lease, of course), and doesn't believe his wife can be removed from his care, doesn't believe he isn't capable of deciding their future.
It's very tricky to handle this with tact so that he doesn't feel railroaded or condescended to.
And I have to say that I am terrified by my experience with all the various agencies, all of whom point fingers at the other. I'm single, will have no children, and am significantly younger than the rest of my family. There but for the grace of (insert deity-of-choice here) go I in another 30 years or so. It should NOT be this hard to take respectful care of our elders.
Anne, thank you for doing what you are doing. (I can only imagine how mentally exhausting that must be.) My grandfather had Alzheimer's, and I know taking care of him was a full-time job for my grandmother. (She lived in another country, so we couldn't help that much.)
I've been meaning to sign up to volunteer with Meals on Wheels or something, because I see so many older people in this city that look like they are just barely getting by. It really breaks your heart.
One last thing to Doug, Patrick (too), Terry, Justin, Fiona - thank you for your kind words. My neighbor Julie and I have been exhausted for the past week. Neither of us could imagine NOT doing it, though. We've both had family members with Alzheimers and are horrified to think of this couple going it alone. I'm still very angry at Alzheimers after losing my grandmother. It's a wretched way to go, with its own particular pain and no hope of a cure.
My neighbors are important to me. I live in an old complex (hey, 60 years is OLD for Dallas) with lots of green space, huge old live oak trees, shaded porches, and common entryways. I think the common entryways are crucial because they force people to have contact with each other. We all come and go, do our laundry in the laundry rooms, take our trash out to the alley dumpsters, and some of us tend little gardens we've created by our back doors. There are a lot of old people near me, but also a fair amount of us in our 20's and 30's. And as a younger, spryer person, I see it as my responsibility to help the older ones if I can see they need help.
I love where I live... I love the fact that I know at least the first name of everyone in the 20 apartments the surround my courtyard, and most of the people behind me. I've lived on this street for most of the last 18 years in four different apartments. (Some of thee others here have been here 40+ years.) We don't have central a/c, a swimming pool, workout room, dishwashers or w/d connections, door-to-door trash pickup - none of the things that most people my age consider "essential". (Remember, my frame of reference is Dallas. Feel free to take that with a grain of salt and a deep breath as I often do.)
I am passionate about this little neighborhood of people of different ages and backgrounds and religions and even incomes. Sadly, half of it was sold off and leveled for new, ultra-luxe development a few years ago. The rest of us wonder when the figurative wrecking ball is going to hit; rumor is it will happen in about six to eight months.
Sadly, developers never seem to take established neighborhoods, adaptive reuse, and affordable rental rates into consideration. I know for a fact that the lovely place I live now will be replaced by the exact kind of apartments that I hate.
(All in all, not so different from what you read on Curbed.com, eh?)
Wow! I want to move to Dallas. This sort of neighborly feeling is what I miss. Actually, I've seen this occur in many parts of the counry, but not NYC.
Fiona--you are truly a lovely woman and your neighbors are lucky to have you.
What a timely thread. We just called 911 for our downstairs neighbor, an elderly woman, who is screaming her head off. We think she's fallen. She asked for the super, but we couldn't find him and she sounds like she is in tremendous pain, so 911 it is. Keep your fingers crossed.
PS - Terry, you meant Anne, who is a lovely woman--I agree.
Oh, Anne, my apologies. I did mean you, but now also I must say that Fiona seems lovely and generous as well. A good neighbor indeed.
Good Lord - it IS timely!
Now Fiona, please update on your neighbor when you know something. Oddly, the lady who lived above me (who DOES have family, thank goodness!) fell down our entry stairs about two months ago and I heard it happen. It is a sickening sound. (Her family moved her into assisted living after that.)
Terry, thank you again. I say go for the block party idea! Are you in New York? Would it be easier to confine it to your building? You could start small, then work your way into the surrounding area.
I do feel most at home when I know my neighbors. Even though I live in the middle of my city, it feels more like a small town. It's comforting.
Under the category of Things You Never Thought You'd Hear Come Out of a New Yorker's Mouth -
"Wow! I want to move to Dallas!"
Thank you, Terry... well, there are nice enclaves here that eschew the Dallas stereotype.
Fiona, how's your neighbor?
Anne-- Thanks. Will try block party idea in my building. I think we have some new neighbors from out of town. I've regularly tried inviting other neighbors over but with little success. (Perhaps I'm in the wrong enclave.)
Yes, Fiona, please keep us updated about your neighbors. It's so awful!
Hi everyone.
I'm not sure what's wrong with the neighbor at this point, unfortunately. Last I heard from the super, she was still hospitalized. I hope this is relatively minor, and she will be released soon.
Poor thing--she was really screaming. First, "Help!" and then when she knew help was coming, she was just screaming, period. It was awful. But at least she could scream and let us know, I guess.
My mom is 70 and in great shape, but she lives alone, and I worry about stuff like this further down the road.
Anne
I found a very good case manager for seniors when my mother was dying--they are located in mid-town, are very reputable, and will take care of all aspects of care--psychosocial, medical, housing, legal etc. Let me know if you are interested and I'll get you their name.
C
just noticed you live in Dallas....oops
My whole building had a party at a neighbor's house a week before Christmas. We had neighbors and friends mingling and really great to meet and talk to them both... There were a bunch of people there that I hadn't seen since the blackout.
I guess this is a sad indication of NYC living that you cannot do this face to face but check out this site
www.meettheneighbors.org/
Saw it in the NYtimes last year and curbed picked up on it also. Haven't tried it.
JamiePup--
Will try out meettheneighbors.com and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the suggestion.
I lived in one building on the UWS for a year and knew so many people. Then I moved around the corner and only met one person there in 10 yrs. I had my own entrance (sort of My Sister Eileen situation) and never ran into anyone else. But then I moved to Hell's Kitchen to a huge complex that is intended for actors/artists only. Everyone here is talkative, even if it's just to bitch about something. God, you just can't shut actors up! Even if I don't know people by their names I recognize a lot of my neighbors. And I know everyone on my floor.
It's funny living in NYC - you don't know if you recognize someone from the elevator in your building or from TV/movies. "Is that the cashier at the Food Emporium or did I see her on Law and Order last night?"
Oh, BTW, there's a great British sitcom called Good Neighbors made in the 80s. Anyone seen it?