Q: I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good Inexpensive custom fabric printing place (cheaper than Spoonflower). I've fallen in love with a print, and originally wanted it for wallpaper, but as I've no wallpaper experience and I'm also in need of an extra wide shower curtain, I decided to go with the fabric option. I'd really rather not spend $122 on fabric for a shower curtain that would still have to be sewn.
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I asked a quilting store if there were any American made fabrics and was told no. I was also told that the only place was in New York. I realize this doesn't help you but I'm curious if California has someplace that can make a custom designed fabric. Best of luck.
If your image is owned / copyright / trademarked by someone else -- such as Snoopy images, which are owned by the heirs of Charles Schulz -- then the $122 price may well include payment to the Copyright Clearing House for use of licensed images. Spoonflower, as a public entity, can be sued for considerable damages if they use other people's property without permission or payment.
Make friends with a student from your local textile school, and convince them to make your needs a project for their class. I've yet to find someone cheaper than spoonflower.
Spoonflower's keeping good folks in Durham employed, and textile artists (and workers, and fabricators) deserve to get paid living wages. You may be "just" ordering a small piece of fabric, but the materials and work have a cost that your product goes to paying for. (End soapbox/artist rant)
If you're feeling creative, you may want to try hand stamping or using an iron-on transfer.
Bravo ALYSAARIA...(okay, I too, will jump off my soap box)
Seriously, I never thought of it that way...good point.
If the image is the melange of Snoopies in question, no legitimate commercial printer can take your money in exchange for reproducing it without clearing the copyright.
Most printing and photo duplication services I've used (Cafe Press, Mpix, a few others that are escaping me) will have fineprint when you submit something saying they'll check things for controlled images and simply cancel the job once they see that it's got copyrighted and/or trademarked images and characters on it, rather than dealing with all the rigamarole of rights clearance.
This sort of stuff falls into a legal gray area. Arguably if you paint Snoopy and Woodstock on your kid's wall yourself, or embroider your own personal Peanuts shower curtain, you're exercising a fair use within the private sphere. As soon as you bring a commercial printer into it, or when somebody sees what you've done in your home and asks you to do it in theirs for a few bucks, you're crossing into copyright infringement.
You could also try screen printing, since it's just black and white.
A good rule of thumb for dealing with copy-written material: If you or someone else is making money off the duplication it's a no no. So, in this case, the printer (Spoonflower, Cafe Press, Skreened, or even a local individual) is liable so most, if not all, of those big name companies won't allow the print to be processed. They pay lawyers huge chunks of money to protect them form just these sorts of legal situations.
That being said, no one should be judging you for not knowing. So if any judge-y folks show up in this comment thread, simply disregard them. You've done the right thing by asking about it.
Snoopy is easily recognizable as a copyrighted image, but this is also a good time to point out that even designs without characters are still owned by the artist that created them. You can't just take an image or detailed design off the web or copied from a print and have a commercially made item done from it. Try using TinEye or similar image-search engine to look up the designer or artist and ask about #1 whether the item is already available in what you want and #2 what the licensing fee would be otherwise.
That being said, I think everyone is safe using chevrons forever.
@miranar ... "That being said, I think everyone is safe using chevrons forever."
Poor, pitiful, sad Chevron Corporation! Just think how much money they could have if they had been defending The Chevron Trademark (and all uses of any chevron any where and at any time) since the 1930's.
My brother recently wanted to make a baby onesie that included Notre Dame's logo. Since it wasn't a product that existed and he was only making one, he was able to get the school's attorneys to send a writ of permission to Cafe Press to use the logo. So what everyone has said here about copyright law is right, but hey, look into it and you never know what a company will or won't allow.
But, like shoshanna said, that pattern would make a perfect screen-printing project.
I'd agree with @alysaaria as the designer definitely deserves to make a decent living.
But a textile designer told me that Spoonflower only pays 10% commission - pretty crappy take if you ask me, especially since the buyer pays so much. Maybe most of the other 90% is going to the fabricators, etc. but my gut says the company is just taking a huge profit margin.
ArabellaJ-- you realize that in addition to the designer commission and cost of materials and machines, that Spoonflower actually have employees that deserve to make a living wage as well? I actually doubt very much that they are making a killing in profits producing small batches of custom fabrics. Durham is a city very much in need of revitalization, and I wish people would put their money where their mouth is when it comes to making purchasing decisions. We have labor laws because of long fought and continuing battles over the treatment of American workers, so what do we do? Export our crappy living and working conditions to countries overseas where it doesn't bother our conscience so much.
I used to think that spoonflower was expensive, but then I started looking at really nice fabric, and realized it wasn't that unreasonable. And I'm pretty sure they are upfront about the 10% commission.
I agree with the screen-printing idea. But really, if it's snoopy you're after, I like this one on ebay better: http://www.ebay.com/itm/PEANUTS-SNOOPY-CHARLIE-BROWN-SHOWER-CURTAIN-/170982512802?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cf5a18a2
Thanks everyone, I didn't even realize my question had been posted here, internet was down and i'm just catching up on my AT! And yes, I'm totally in favor of the good people of Durham making money, I'm a big Duke fan :)
I was hoping for cheaper because spoonflower charges a flat rate minimum from my understanding. And since it's for a shower curtain that will rarely get touched as opposed to a quilt you might snuggle up against your cheek, I could go with a lesser quality fabric. Also since there is no color involved, other than black I wouldn't be using any of their (what I imagine costly) pigments which I figured are factored into the cost.
I didn't even think about copyright infringement since I wasn't going to sell it. I actually got the idea from seeing the print on party favor gift boxes and tags on etsy, which I'm not sure if copyright was cleared for that. Perhaps I'll get a plain white extra white shower curtain and give silk screening a go. Thanks for the link Phalaenopsis.nomnom, I actually looked at that one, but it's not wide enough and that bright red won't work in my grey, pale pink, and white bathroom. I invested in pale pink Restoration Hardware bathsheets so I'm pretty set on that color scheme.
Thanks for all the input everyone!
You could stamp the fabric and walls to get the same effect. There's a number of Peanuts stamps, and I've bought several at Michaels...I have at least two that match the "poses" in your photo.
And, of course, there's a tutorial!
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-to-stamp-your-own-sheets-73246
you can check www.fabocity.com for High Quality, Luxurious & Designer fabrics for curtains, upholstery, valances & cushions.