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doork051309.jpgK sent in a good question: We are in the process of renovating an Old Victorian home and would love to match the hardware throughout. Does anyone know anything about this Victorian doorknob? Who made it? What is the pattern called? Are reproductions available?

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You're not going to find these in a mainstream shop or online.

You're going to have to spend some time scouting out the local building reuse centers, fleamarkets and vintage hardware stores to find matching originals.

Most likely, you'll need to send it to a place such as Rejuvenation Hardware to have duplicates custom-made.

posted by bepsf on May 1st 2009 at 11:49am
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Van Dyke's Restorers carries reproduction Victorian door hardware: http://www.vandykes.com/

posted by heather77 on May 1st 2009 at 11:53am
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Hate to be a pessimist, but it is ridiculously hard to find an exact match for antique hardware. If by some miracle you're able to locate a match... you probably won't find more than one at a time! There are many vintage reproduction door sets out there- here are two of my favorite resources:

http://www.vandykes.com/category/1/doorknobs?arr_filter%5Bbrand%5D%5B%5D=&arr_filter%5Bprice%5D%5B%5D=&arr_filter%5Barr_variation_options%5D%5Bsize%5D%5B%5D=&sort_order=&setPerPage=12

http://houseofantiquehardware.com/s.nl/sc.10/category.7/.f

http://www.rejuvenation.com/location21/typepageinterior%20sets/templates/houseparts_group.html

If you're stuck on having a match, try perusing eBay. House of Antique Hardware also has an antique section, and it might be worth checking back periodically.

posted by shockthebourgeois on May 1st 2009 at 11:54am
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You could try contacting Liz's Antique Hardware in L.A. and see if they have any in stock. They have an incredibly extensive inventory, but only a fraction of it is online so you'd have to work with a store employee by phone or email. Or, as bepsf said, have that knob duplicated. (It's beautiful, btw.)

posted by palindrome on May 1st 2009 at 11:58am
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Someone at the Alemany Flea Market sells antique doorknobs...

posted by lighight on May 1st 2009 at 12:04pm
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Have you tried Salvage One? www.salvageone.com

posted by English Accent on May 1st 2009 at 12:09pm
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Is there any markings on the inside of the hardware giving a clue to the manufacture?

posted by English Accent on May 1st 2009 at 12:13pm
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If you really want everything to match, go to a salvage place and get original hardware from a house that was recently torn down, so that you can have multiple pieces of the same design.

It's really really hard to match antique hardware -- people who have it don't know what it is, even if they're willing to re-sell it. And most antiques places just have a box of mixed up hardware that you have to sort through.

Victorians mixed things up all the time. There's no reason you can't too.

posted by Lisa (Montreal) on May 1st 2009 at 12:35pm
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BTW - The more I look at this piece, I'm thinking that this doorknob is not even original to your house.

The designs are clearly not Victorian which would typically be very ornate and include rosettes, curlicues, etc.

This is much more geometric in form and design - note the escutcheon plate with the nested squares, and the Masonic motifs such as the rays and interlocking circles on the knob. This indicates to me that that this piece is probably American Art Deco which would date from the late 1920's to the early 1930's.

posted by bepsf on May 1st 2009 at 1:28pm
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Maybe...

http://www.lahardware.com/

posted by fledgling on May 1st 2009 at 2:00pm
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I'm not an expert (far from it) but my first thought was also that this looked more art deco than Victorian. You should bring it (or a picture) into an antiques shop and see if they can identify the period. Knowing what period you should be searching in will make it much easier.

posted by idontdobeige on May 1st 2009 at 3:40pm
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that's gorgeous! go to the kane county flea market TOMORROW! get there at 11:30. there's a guy there who salvages this type of hardware from tear-downs in the midwest. we got all our door hardware from him.

take the picture with you, and he may be able to help u find something similar.

posted by tinymorsels on May 1st 2009 at 4:07pm
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looks kind of arts and crafty to me. Isn't that a little pre-deco? deco would be a little swirlier or organic, less of a rigid design. I'm no expert, just sayin'
...btw, I hate matchy anything. People are posting great suggestions, but if you still can't get what you want, why not unmatched, beautiful victorian hardware???

posted by baba yaga on May 1st 2009 at 6:02pm
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"deco would be a little swirlier or organic, less of a rigid design. "

I believe you're thinking of Art Nouveau - Which would date from the 1900's to the mid-20's, and was not at all prevalent in typical American domestic design.

posted by bepsf on May 1st 2009 at 6:51pm
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the eastlake stuff in antique/unlaquered brass from rejuvenation would be good, but they only do custom lighting, from what i understand.

posted by mannequingirl on May 1st 2009 at 8:50pm
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The late 19th c. aesthetic movement did some hard quasi-Japanese that looks like the doorknob, especially the palm fronds and triple circle at the center.
The escutcheon looks textbook deco, though, I will agree. I kinda don't think they are a matched set, so you may as well just buy whatever hardware and mix it all up. That has a lot more soul anyway.

posted by trikitixa on May 1st 2009 at 9:02pm
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Yes, bepsf, leave it to you to catch that...
I popped awake @ 7am thinking "what the hell was
I thinking? swirly organic is art nouveau!!!

posted by baba yaga on May 2nd 2009 at 6:33am
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I vote for mix and match! (All antique or repro, of course. But not all the same design, even if you CAN find it.) Looks great -- have fun hunting!

posted by SherryBinNH on May 2nd 2009 at 2:48pm
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I agree with the others who've said it was Art Deco. The sunburst motif and the geometric pattern is not something found in Victorian hardware.

Victorian styled items would look more like this:

http://www.signaturehardware.com/images/hardware/2/vic-passage.jpg

or
http://laughingsun.com/houses/lake/door_hardware2.jpg

posted by fade on violet on May 2nd 2009 at 6:54pm
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Late Victorian furniture also looked like this:

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/dsgn1/ho_1970.181.3.htm

High style, admittedly, but there wasn't one monolithic "look" to Victorian anything since the period lasted for 60 years.

posted by trikitixa on May 3rd 2009 at 6:36pm
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I would contact SA Baxter or H Theophile, both in NYC. Either place will be able to fabricate the exact hardware that you want. Prices won't be cheap but the results will be amazing. I have worked with both and each company is great.

posted by kpetuck on May 12th 2009 at 1:49pm
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I restored my San Francisco Victorian and in the process became OBSESSED with Victorian hardware. The best place to purchase Victorian hardware is Ebay (all the aforementioned stores buy their merchandise on Ebay and anyone you call will just source your knobs from there and mark them up 800% when they sell them to you).

You have to watch for a while, but eventually your pattern will come up (I just saw that pattern listed a few weeks ago, actually). Search "eastlake" also, "doorknob" (then filter to antiques and auction only), also "lock set," also "door plate," also "mortise."

The manufacturer of that pattern is "Mallory Wheeler" and it is circa 1890. Source: Victorian Decorative Art by Leonard Blumin, also available on Ebay. It's not an uncommon pattern but finding a full set will take time and patience.

If you are in the Chicago area, check out Urban Remains. They have a fantastic selection and I know he has tons of antique hardware catalogs and could tell you a lot more about the particular pattern.

posted by abowsf on June 8th 2009 at 6:37pm
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