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Spark Fires Vent-Free Fireplaces

120407ventlessfire.jpgWe love a good wood burning fire, but if less is always more for you, there are vent-free (and log-free) fireplaces. The ultra-modern Fire Ribbon by Spark Fires works as a single flaming line (okay, a "ribbon") in a deeply recessed rectangular setting.

 
 

Comes with safety guarantees and a swanky price tag ($3,999), and many mounting/display options.

We prefer a lot of things the old fashioned way. What are your thoughts on ventless, logless, nearly "placeless" fires?

See also AT Survey: Have a Fireplace at Home?

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My thoughts are that they are illegal in New York City, which sucks.

posted by Vanessa in New York on December 4th 2007 at 11:26am
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I have an electric one, which makes me long for my Connecticut childhood and real logs, but is also toasty enough to make me forget it isn't real when it's freezing out.

posted by Squeegee Beckenheim on December 4th 2007 at 1:08pm
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What about San Francisco? Does anyone if it illegal or if a special permit is required?

posted by jigglyphurbs on December 4th 2007 at 1:12pm
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They certainly "look" nice.
But, as a cautionary side note.....Ventless Gas Fireplaces have no place to put the H2O (water Vapor) that is a by-product of the combustion- as a result, Mold,Mildew can develop- as well as "Rust".

On, a certain fireplace that I installed Mild Steel (not Stainless) panels around, a careless Painter, chose to use a harsh solvent to remove his Paint splatter(ooops!) and removed my sealer along with the splatter, casuing the ventless fireplaces extra mositure to Oxidize the steel....
(double oops)

(THIS IS a B4)

posted by ManofSteel on December 4th 2007 at 2:02pm
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Unvented fireplaces, along with unvented gas stoves/ovens, are supposedly bad for your health because they release carbon monoxide into the air. Doesn't it seem a little sketchy that gas boilers and water heaters have very strict venting regulations- why not gas stoves/ovens and fireplaces? However, in many places unvented gas fireplaces are illegal.

Here is typical info found when googled:
Several states within the United States, as well as other countries, have completely outlawed ventless gas fireplaces because of health concerns. Canada, Massachusetts, and California don't allow people to install these types of heaters because of their potential to build up carbon monoxide, deplete oxygen, and lead to unconsciousness or even suffocation. Check with your local building code before purchasing one of these appliances.

posted by chococat on December 4th 2007 at 4:09pm
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I just went through the Direct Vent VS Vent Less debate. I ended up returning my Vent Less for a Direct Vent.

Once I understood that the Vent Less releases Carbon Dioxide I didn't want it in my bedroom. It now vents out the roof.

I ended up with one of the Fireplaces from Menards that I had built into bookshelves so it looks built in. I'm actually really happy with it.

posted by chris on December 5th 2007 at 4:59am
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I don't think of the new gas fireplaces as fireplaces, any more than I think of a bunch of lit candles as fireplaces, but that said, I like them for what they are. What I really want is the gas fire thingie on Moonlight. . . .

posted by Aulaire on December 5th 2007 at 5:04am
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We have one and love it. It comes equipped with an oxygen depletion sensor which shuts the unit off if carbon monoxide levels raise. It is stunning and hypnotic. But decide for yourself...we researched the risks and talked to our contractor, architect and heating contractor.

posted by innov8 on December 5th 2007 at 10:16am
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No place to put the water vapor??? Let's get real here people - its called the air. I empty a gallon of water into my loft every day using the humidifier.

posted by SeanG on March 11th 2008 at 6:27am
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I have opted for direct vent, but am having trouble finding someone to retrofit my chimney. I know it can happen, but no one seems to know enough for me to trust them. Any suggestions on a Chicago-area contactor?

posted by byronha on May 5th 2008 at 1:53pm
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I run a registered charity (not for profit) in the UK at www.co-gassafety.co.uk Does anyone know of any research into vent free fires? We are concerned that other toxins in gas could cause a build up of substances dangerous to health but has anyone any decent research on this undertaken by an independent body e.g. a university?
I would be most grateful if you could let me know by email at office@co-gassafety.co.uk

posted by CO-Gas Safety on July 8th 2008 at 1:49pm
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