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Chipping Concrete: What To Do?

121718-concrete.jpg The floors in our loft have two beams that run the width of the room. Atop these beams is poured concrete that has began to chip. We aren't concerned with the structure of the building, but would love some ideas from everyone on how to make this chipping concern less of an eyesore. Click through to see what we were thinking...

 
 

We have a feeling that attempting to mix our own concrete to skim over these boards could be a bad choice (since calling in a professional isn't up our DIY alley). So instead we have considered chipping away all the concrete on the boards, painting them and then using a wood graining tool to give them an intentional fake wood look.

Our landlord is more of a hands off guy and we knew of the concrete issue upon moving in, so the ball is in our court! What would you do if you lived here?

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Could someone trip if the tip of their shoe caught where the wood and concrete meet? I can trip on air, so that would be my first concern.


If not, then consider trying your stain/distressing project on the currently exposed portion of wood. If you don't like it, you have only a small part of concrete to patch. If you wait to try it out until after all the concrete is chipped off, your repair job is a lot more substantial in the event you don't like the effect.

posted by LilyC on December 17th 2008 at 8:20pm
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I would chip out the concrete and put tile in the gap. You could find something in a similar color if you want to be discrete, hit craigslist if you want to be frugal, spend the big bucks for something wonderful because it isn't a very large area, or use glass tile with lighting underneath if you want to go over the top.

posted by mrs yow on December 17th 2008 at 8:29pm
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Before chipping everything, make sure it doesn't affect the soundproofing of your home. We've had some units in our building that had similar problems and the owners had to patch the dammage for that reason. Be aware that a patching job will never be seemless. Mrs yow's tile idea sounds like a good option.

posted by Eve in Hochelaga on December 17th 2008 at 8:38pm
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Much like the brick windowsill, once again, decoration is not the solution to a structural problem!

You say you're "not concerned about the structure of the building," but there's a reason the concrete has chipped away from the board, and that's what you need to address first. Has the wood gotten wet? Is there an expansion and contraction problem between winter and summer? Was the original concrete floor laid too thin over the boards?

If you're serious about your loft, you owe it to yourself to investigate the *failure* of every problem before you embark on some kind of DIY coverup. If the underlying problem isn't addressed, it will either get worse or cause problems for whatever kind of patch job you do.

Good luck!

posted by nashdp on December 17th 2008 at 9:54pm
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I too agree with NASHDP. You should always find the source of the problem before moving forward. If structurally everything is sound then you could simply mix self-leveling cement powder with 2 part epoxy resin. The resin is something like"50 Coats" or marine epoxy or even liquid fiberglass. Just make sure that both parts of the 2 part epoxy resin are clear. Some liquid fiberglass come with a yellow, red or grey hardener, this will not work. Next mix of the resin or epoxy, follow all directions each product comes with. When everything is mixed simply add the cement mix keeping the final mixture runny so that it still self levels. Pour and wait. It can be that simple.

Now, the final product will be darker because it is a highgloss product. You can sand it after it has hardened to knock out the sheen, a rough sanding sponge will do this. I have had to do this for clients in the past. It works well as a permanent patch and it seals the wood and bonds to the cement to help prevent any future problems. The only down side to this method is that it does look like a patch. It will not blend but it will seal and level perfectly. For a do-it-yourself-er it is easy, inexpensive, works and lasts a very long time.

If you need any more help simply email me @ findingmrsmith@hotmail.com

Hope this works, I know it has.

posted by findingmrsmith on December 17th 2008 at 10:20pm
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I think I was just banned.

posted by findingmrsmith on December 17th 2008 at 10:25pm
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Okay, I am back. I also have another method that would allow you to see the wood but bring the area flush and smooth with the rest of the floor. Let me know if you are interested.

posted by findingmrsmith on December 17th 2008 at 10:27pm
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I'm with nashdp. Concrete cracking says the underlayment should be stiffened, or the concrete around the area could also crack more.

If you remove the concrete the wood will probably flex as you step on it. Personally, I'd find this a bit disconcerting.

posted by baltimorerowhouse on December 17th 2008 at 10:54pm
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If you read the question, its only the thin layer of concrete over an underlying beam that has come delaminated - not the entire floor (which is apparently a thicker pour). A patch would look like a patch - I would fill in the area with colorful tile or thin wood paneling/flooring to bring up this area of the floor level with the rest of the concrete.

posted by southcook on December 18th 2008 at 9:49am
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Your whole floor is unfinished concrete?

Doesn't seem right. This is a commercial loft or a residential loft?

Even if they had put expansion joints on either side of the beam it wouldn't make a difference. Concrete doesn't stick to wood.

Seems like the chipping concrete is a leveler that they skimmed over the surface of an existing slab. But that's not finished. For a residential property it has to have a finished surface of some sort--even if it is properly finished concrete that has been sealed.

posted by art on December 18th 2008 at 10:56am
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This is obviously not a structural issue. The concrete topping is just for sound dampening purposes or in some cases to cover radiant floor heat. Whatever you do over those beams is going to be purely cosmetic. With that in mind a concrete patch is going to crack in exactly the same place that the last one did. Whether you choose tile, new concrete or a wood patch you want to decouple the new area from the existing concrete. Any decent tile store will sell a sanded silicone that looks similar to grout in a wide variety of colors that will provide the flex needed to keep the joint looking fresh and new.

posted by HeritageWoodworks on December 18th 2008 at 11:02am
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Bondo?

posted by missdk on December 18th 2008 at 11:24pm
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