Hello AT,
I'm beginning a bathroom remodel (on a limited budget, of course). I'd love to be able to take out my old tub and white tile around the tub, but seeing as it's the least of my worries, it will stay. What i don't want is a shower curtain, they drive me crazy. I love the look of showers with a fixed glass divider and would like to do something similar here. My question is can I affix a glass partition to the ceiling and the upper lip of the tub? Has anyone done this before? Can i drill or glue a footing into the edge of the tub? Anyone have any leads on some good hardware for this type of project?
Thanks, Jenny.
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Dear Jenny,
We asked around on this one and no one has done this without spending a pretty penny. Simon's Hardware will definitely have a solution, but we would recommend checking out Design Source on the Bowery first.
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Running the glass all the way to the ceiling may be pricey, as that's not standard shower door height. Installing a basic glass shower door just requires caulking the bottom rail to the tub and using tile anchors and caulk to secure the side rails. Here's the DIY Network version:
http://tinyurl.com/payfm
I was going to suggest the same thing as Wende - installing a basic glass shower door will be a much less pricey option. The hardware and doors can be bought as a set at any home improvement store like Home Depot or Lowe's.
This has the potential to look a little 'dated', and as you are doing a remodel my guess is that you want an updated look. My suggestion to keep it looking modern would be to do a plain glass as opposed to a frosted or a pebbled glass. Also, go for silver/chrome and not gold or brass. My parents have a sliding shower door on their tub - the pebbled glass with gold - and it looks very 80's.
I know you only asked about the shower door, but replacing the wooden toilet lid with a white porcelain one and swapping out the towel rack for something more modern would make a huge difference.
Good luck with your project!
You can do this yourself to save money but the biggest cost will be the glass. You will need tempered safety glass and I think the developer of one of our earlier places spent somewhere north of $1000 on a single pane of shower door glass similar to the curved edge one similar to the 6th picture here:
http://www.cbienclosures.com/macc_ts.htm
That 6th picture is the cheapest and easist route because you only need to mount hardware on the vertical edge. You will need a plastic edge along the bottom of the glass to stop water and this edge comes with doors of this type.
Of course you will have to hit a stud for this and if there is not one there, you could cut out drywall to the right of the tiles, push a piece of 2 by 4 behind the tile where you need to screw in the hardware, make sure you screw the right end of the 2 by 4 to the first stud you can find on the right and then screw the hardware trough the tile and underlying drywall to hit the 2 by 4. Do that for each hinge. You are basically installing a brace across the vertical studs. You will be unable to secure the left end of the 2by 4 brace but at least you secure to the right side and the screwing in of the hardware (which will pull the 2 by 4 against the back of the drywall) will be pretty secure.
You could get a cheaper door from a glass supplier and then source the hardware and plastic edge elsewhere. Design source mentioned above is a good place for this kind of stuff.
If you want tub to ceiling glass, then you need to hit studs in the ceiling. If they are not in the right place, do the 2 by 4 bracing again but this time you can secure both ends of the brace because there is no tile on the ceiling.
Also try and watch Bathroom Renovations on the DIY network because they are repeating a remodel where they do install a glass door themselves. That will help you get an idea of the scale of the job.
This may sound like sacrilege on this site, but how about NOT doing the glass shower door.
I don't think any sliding versions look good. And I think that in small bathrooms the swinging versions make the space feel cramped.
What I did instead was use a perfectly clear plastic shower curtain with no liner. When the shower is not being used I keep it all slid to one side. Regular washing in the tub with oxyclean (maybe once every other month) keeps it looking new. I used this technique in my old rental, and brought it with me to my condo. Combined with a curved permanently mounted curtain rod this system looks and works great.
If I had a a bigger bathroom I'd do the glass doors, but looking at your photo I'd say unless your remodel is adding square footage it might feel tight.
i was just going to mention a possible solution i saw on "bathroom renovations" over the weekend: they installed a knee wall that was just a bit taller than the bathtub's open end and tiled it, installing a piece of art glass atop it to divide the tub from the toilet area. could you do something similar there, only on the side in your case instead of at the end? (though i do really like the ones at cbienclosures.com, if you can afford them--bookmarked!)
Ah lisabee, that was the episode I was thinking of but I couldn't remember the details. So it wasn't a glass shower door after all. Still, if Jenny can catch the repeat then it should be very helpful.
i'm sorry to be such a weirdo, because this has nothing to do with your questions, but i really like your colorful shower curtain. where did you get it?
I'll second the recommendation against the glass doors for a room this small. Instead, for a more modern look make the walls lighter -- possibly going monochrome.
Why do you need a screen at all?
Remove the curtain and you will find that very little water splashes around - unless you are a child under 12.
I drove myself nuts about a screen that would hinge open 180 degrees and found I didn't need it.
Try it and save some $$ for something else.
But Jenny said shower curtains drive her crazy.
I hate shower curtains and will find any way to replace them if I have them no matter how small the space.
It is expensive but you can get triple paned, hinged, frameless glass doors that don't take up much space when folded for cleaning the tub etc. Afterall, glass coffee tables are cited as good ideas for ppl with small living rooms because glass gives the impression of airiness and space so really only folding the door presents a space problem.
I understand if someone asks for general help with decor but this person asked a specific question with a fairly strongly worded personal dislike of shower curtains. No offense Max because we usually agree and your taste sounds like mine most of the time.
Another sort of off topic question: does anyone know of a good, attractive shower curtain that does not mildew? I have been ordering the hospital shower curtains from Dr. Leonards but I have to replace them every couple of months, in the summer sometimes every month. We do have a window in the bathroom but there's very little air circulation. Any suggestions for me? Doesn't have to be a design beauty, just non-mildewing. I tried a fabric shower curtain and it wasn't waterproof.
No offense taken Jaime. I thought that perhaps she hadn't considered the possibilities offered by having a clear curtain that isn't drawn most of the time.
In my bathroom I effectively have no curtain, because it's only drawn when I'm actually showering. It's cost effective and opens the space up.
There are a bunch of people in my building who have gone the glass door route in similar sized bathrooms. To me, each one has felt cramped.
If I were redoing that bathroom I'd probably rip the tub and floor out to put a drain in and just have an open shower with no doors or curtains at all. Provided you get the right type of shower head you probably wouldn't notice a spash difference.
For extra fun put two heads in, one on each side. Then you can have company when you shower.
Matilda, just get a plastic shower curtain and clean it. My clear curtain has been with me through two apartments and is probably about 7 years old now. It still looks like new.
What is the best way to clean it? Thanks Max.
I just take it off the hooks and place it in the tub. I use water and oxyclean and let it soak for 20 minutes or so. Then I hang it back up and hose it off with a shower head. Very simple.
Ah ok Max, I see what you mean now.
Sorry for the admonition.
i have the same bathroom layout as yours. i momentarily considered a european style glass divider, but ended up staying with a shower curtain, because of a limited budget. i can't stand the look & sound of vinyl curtains, so i use a white polyester liner only. when it's spread out, it's almost sheer, especially with daylight shining through it. it's very thin, so when it's pushed to one side, it takes up very little space. i've added fancy hooks for a little sparkle.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=12176244&RN=12
http://www.restorationhardware.com/rh/catalog/product/product_detail.jsp?productId=prod240023&navCount=3
Matilda, my favorite mildew-free shower curtain is the heavy cotton duck shower courtain at Vermont Country Store. It is cotton (hence the name . . .) but is waterproof. Just throw it in the wash with some bleach every couple weeks and it stays super bright. Although it only comes in white, you can layer a decorative curtain over it. I have a black and white toile in my otherwise white bathroom and it looks great.
I feel the same way about shower curtains. They are horrid and would never have another. I have a glass shower screen which cost £100 (about
200$) and it is fine. It looks great and does the job well. You don't have to take it down and soak it and all that palaver. Hope you find just the right one for your bathroom.
Margaret
I need to find a supplier for a glass shower partition. No one here in Minnesota knows what I am talking about! We really are behind the times. Does anyone know where I can buy one of these "new-fangled-dealie-bobs"?
Thank you!