Q: Help! We recently moved into a new house. I am trying to figure out how to place the exisiting furniture and add another sofa that has been in storage. We frequently have company and we need additional seating. I hate that my husband's huge TV takes up an entire wall. Should I place the TV next to the fireplace where the bookcase currently stands? Would that detract from the fireplace? Anyone have any suggestions? The sofa in the picture floats. The living room opens up to the kitchen and there is an additional 4 feet behind the sofa before the kitchen starts. Also, the ledge in front of the fireplace extends all the way in front of the window:
Also, if you have any suggestions as to how to decorate the large wall opposite of the TV, I am open! Thank you so much! I really need some help! :)
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Keep your focal point the fire place and mount your TV over it. That frees up that wall to place the 2nd sofa on.
Agree with SSDMMF. Move the TV above the fireplace, you can consolidate the gear to where the bookcase is--hire an electrician to route the wires through the wall so that you don't have to see them. Move the mirror to one of the side walls.
Unsolicited advice--take it for what it's worth: replace the drapes with something solidly off-white and move the patterned, fully upholstered armchair next to it (or move that chair out of that room). Right now the armchair pattern clashes with the rug. You can put the second sofa where the upholstered armchairs were. Put the chair with white arms away and put the leather armchair along that wall with the side table near the entry space (not close to the bookcase/future media storage). Replace the small glass side table with a coffee table in front of your current sofa. The rug should be larger. If it's a 5x8 now, try an 8x10--at the very least, the front legs of the current sofa should be on the rug.
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Definitely put the TV over the fireplace. It will give the room one focal point- right now you have 2 and I'm guessing you look at the TV more than the fireplace. If you put the TV in the corner it would looked squished. Put the TV component there in a nice concealed bookcase. Also you can bring in your second sofa onto either wall, and place the mirror from the fireplace above it- then since the wall is long, flank the mirror with 2 sconces for added ambient light. On the opposite wall with one chair ( get rid of the other ones, its too cluttered- if your 2nd sofa is leather keep the fabric chair, if the 2nd sofa is fabric, keep the leather chair) have that piece of art next to the chair - on the other side of the chair have an end table with a lamp. Also- get new drapery panels that are a solid darker color to contrast the walls.
That's a pretty room, I like the vaulted ceiling. Nice rug, too.
Personally, I am against the TV over the fireplace. IMHO, I would put something tall there (on top of the mantel) to accentuate the height of the room. The TV would do exactly the opposite. But mostly, I am not a fan of TV over the fireplace (just a personal preference).
What I would do - if the TV would fit in the niche (where the bookstand is), I would place the TV there (I cannot tell from the pic if the niche is wide enough). I would remove the bookstand, put additional shelves there and I would cover the whole thing with door with mirrored front as it would sort of mimic the the window on the other side and enhance the symmetry.
I, too, was going to say that you have to get rid of the drapes and replace them with drapes that don't compete with the rug and preferably in a colour that is pulled out from the rug - mostly likely, I would use the off-white or beige that shows in the rug.
If you are going to keep the chairs by the window, then I would place the other sofa where the TV cabinet currently sits.
Put the TV over the fireplace and if you still want a mirror over the fireplace then you can get those 2-way mirror so you'll still have your mirror and it hides the TV until you turn it on.
I agree with Canadianmango -- the television above the fireplace will be too high to view comfortably. I would try mounting the TV on the wall just behind where it is now, then put the 2nd couch where the armchairs are now, and the armchairs under the TV. Also, I think it could be cozier to pull all of the furniture in a bit closer together, but that is just my opinion.
Get rid of one of the sofas and buy a love seat and a couple chairs. Living rooms with two sofas look too much like a frat house.
If you want all seating locations to view the TV, mount the TV over the fireplace, place one sofa to each side of the fireplace perpendicular to it, then place a chair facing the fireplace at the end of the sofas nearest the kitchen.
I would also get matching curtain panes for the window and in front of the bookcase to hide clutter and better frame the fireplace.
If you mount the TV, make share it's adequately shielded from the heat if you actually use the fireplace...high heat can shorten the life of electronics and may damage some types of displays that are more sensitive. Also, the viewing angle may be too high for comfortable viewing.
Another alternative would be a corner tv stand that replaces the bookshelf. Moving the chairs to share the rest of the wall should allow you to devote the opposite wall to a new sofa.
I disagree with others about putting the tv over the fireplace. It'll hurt your neck and eyes watching tv when it's so high up like that. Good design to me is the ease and comfort of the occupants. i think you should leave the tv where it is..
"I agree with Canadianmango -- the television above the fireplace will be too high to view comfortably."
I don't :) Our TV is above the fireplace - initially I was also concerned about the height, but I noticed it only the first time - then it's so not an issue. Plus I love the fact it's out of the way of small kids, plus I free up space the tv stand took. So give it a try - it's not like you have to commit - if you don't like it after 2 nights, move it back :)
Where you put the couches depends on how you use the room. If you frequently have lots of guests at once, then you need easy access to the seating - not everyone walking through the one gap between the TV and couch, as you have now. But hey, again couches are easy enough to move - try it a few different ways over a few nights and see what you like.
Me, I'd like to read next to that window - so make sure there's a reading chair there if you're also that way inclined :)
Oh I definitely think you should put the TV above the fireplace... it'll solve all your problems and if you don't like it there you can always move it.
Be careful that you're not trying to shoehorn too much furniture in the space. The room is spacious, but not huge, and I don't think you can fit a second sofa *and* the chairs without it looking like a furniture store.
What would I do? Remove the bookcase and fill the niche with installed shelving to make the niche itself a "bookcase," which would also allow you to place the TV-related electronics near the TV (if you install it above the fireplace), and you can ditch the console. The ideal place for the TV would indeed be above the fireplace, if you can view it comfortably from there. Then, put one armchair on each side of the sofa, and get rid of the smaller chair. Replace the curtain with something more substantial and solid/neutral colored.
Oh - and for additional seating, look at more temporary options you can bring in from elsewhere in your house. Poufs, dining chairs, etc. can be easily moved around when you need them without taking up permanent space in your living room.
Don't put the tv over the fireplace. It sounds like a good idea and it solves the problem, but it doesn't work well in real life.
Move the bookcase and either find a tv console (or a dresser or something) or build in a bookcase/tv cabinet. I think building a cabinet is the best bet, and then you can put the tv on a retractable swivel arm - so that you can see it from all angles, but it tucks away neatly.
Keep your one floating couch and put the second couch on the wall where the chairs are now. Pairs of chairs tend to look better if they float somewhere.
Like pps have said, change out your drapes to something wider taller, and lighter to match your future built-in. And, a larger rug and coffee table would really help to anchor your seating arrangement. I hope that helps!
Oh, and in an ideal world, you could remove the horizontal soffit above the curtain rod. Doing so, adding curtains, and building in a bookcase, would really open up the wall. This horizontality shortens the room.
Do NOT move the TV over the fireplace. It will be uncomfortable to watch and renders the fireplace useless unless you want to replace your television often. Not sure why you need so much extra seating - can't chairs be brought in or a window seat built by the chairs?
To answer your question, you're likely going to have to take at least one chair out of the room. Move the TV to where the bookshelf is though you might need a higher TV stand to actually see it. Angle whichever is the shortest chair in front of it facing the couch and put the other chair next to it. Put the second couch on the wall the chairs used to be. I can't tell you what to do with the third chair - you really just don't have room for it.
How about this:
Mount TV on wall where chair/ottoman sets are now (not necessarily centered). Think of the shape as large art and hang other art around it so it's not the only focal point.
Put other couch on current TV wall, so it's perpendicular to the existing couch.
Get a larger rug (at least 8x10) so the front legs of the furniture will be on the rug. This will draw all the seating together.
If you need to keep both chair/ottoman sets, pull them away from the wall a bit and hang the TV several inches above them (again, as if you were hanging art). Or keep one chair/ottoman and angle it somewhere near the window (sliding glass door?) and fireplace for reading. Put the small chair on an oddball wall or at the end of the wall where the chair/ottoman sets are (as far away from the window as possible.
I like the idea of extra seating that isn't permanent like poofs, floor cushions, etc.
Shallow shelves/display ledges would look great in the niche to the right of the fireplace and would make the soffit look like it has a reason to be there. Doesn't have to be custom, but it would look like a built-in.
This all assumes you don't watch as much TV as your husband. If your family watches a lot, then maybe it does make sense to mount the TV above the fireplace, place the couches facing one another (perpendicular to the fireplace, and move at least one chair/ottoman so it's facing the fireplace. If you float one of the couches so it creates an imaginary line extending out from the spot between the left side of the fireplace and the right of the window, you'll create a walkway toward what I think is a sliding glass door. You could then put two smallish chairs (no ottomans) on the wall where the current chair/ottoman set ups are.
Good luck!
Oh, and, I second (or third) the suggestion to get a simpler drape. If you love the curtains, how about a rug that is either solid or very simple pattern in colors that complement the curtains? Right now you seem to have competing patterns in the curtains, rug, and one of the chair/ottoman sets.
I think the TV is fine where it is; advice coming from one who would never, never put the TV over the fireplace.
Having said that, here's what I would do.
De-clutter the corner where the bookcase and chair are. Ideally, remove the speakers as well. Change the drapes to a solid color, paint the niche in the same color as the drapes (to get some symmetry) install a picture light and mount the big art piece from the wall opposite the TV in the niche. Move one of the chairs (less ottoman) in the corner, between the TV setting and the freshly painted niche :-)
I think the fireplace and the TV cabinet work fine together in the same room so maintaining them as focus points is the key. I also like how the TV is almost the same height as the mantel.
Leave the floating sofa where it is but add a small bookcase at the back. The shelf in the photo looks too light for the sofa and it doesn't give you storage for the books and art which are currently in the bookcase int he corner.
Put the second sofa along the wall opposite the TV. Mount art on the wall above it. Get a coffee table for the floating sofa and side tables for the one along the wall.
On a different note, if you replace the curtains, maybe get a longer rod
I like the idea of mounting it above the fire place. I don't know if you have seen the thing on pinterest where they put little hinges on a the back of a canvas painting/photo (if not you can follow this http://pinterest.com/pin/9640586672691492/ ) but you could make something like it to cover your flat screen. Good Luck.
I think TV placement is the least of this room's worries. From the photos, it looks like there is just too much furniture in the room - there isn't any open pathway to be able to comfortably walk into it. If the main path to get into this area is to the left, I would at the very least switch the placement of those 2 chairs and matching ottomans with the TV. The TV will take up less depth and allow for walking without an obstacle course. I might then fill out the new TV wall with matching shelves on both sides of it so that you can remove the shelving from the right of the fireplace. Our eyes like some symmetry, and the left of the fireplace is a window that will always feel clean and open, so leaving the right of the fireplace more open (floor lamp? the mirror? simple art?) will help resolve the eyes a bit. I don't know that you're going to be able to fit in another sofa, though, unless it is to replace the two easy chairs.
Greenwood gal is so right about a TV mounted above a fireplace being really uncomfortable to watch. My husband and I suffered for years until we heard about a new motorized mounting system that brings large tv's out to clear the mantelpiece and then down over two feet. It's amazing and we no longer need our chiropractor. It's pricey, but we've already spent many thousands on our home theater so what's a few more to make watching pain free? We bought ours through our installer, but you can check it out and see what I mean at their website - ComfortVu.com
I think you first want to decide whether your focus is having a good set up for company or good TV viewing. Doing both in that room might not be super feasible. Consider getting rid of the other couch in storage and working with your existing furniture. Another piece of furniture in that room will seem crowded. Try flipping rug 90 degrees so it is parallel with the fireplace and put the couch facing the two chairs facing so it creates a conversation area. Pull the couches and the chairs away from the walls and put the edges of the furniture on the rug so it creates a cozy conversation space.,
Experiment with putting the TV in the corner where the bookshelf is and see how it looks. The bookshelf itself may need to leave the room. Sometimes less is more with furniture!
If nothing else, turn the mirror so it sits taller. It will draw the eye up and make the room seem taller. Right now it looks kind of squatty.
If you can, mount the tv over the fireplace. It's not that hard to do and if you're not renting, you should be able to do that easily. Next, move the two sofas across from each other, on either side of the fireplace. If there is more than a few inches of length difference in each sofa, use a side table on the far end (furthest away from the fireplace) to compensate for the shorter one.
Turn the rug around so that it's lengthwise between the two sofas and either re-home or get rid of the old tv stand. There's too much going on in the room as is for this to be successful without losing SOMETHING.
If you have two of the chairs, put them on the opposite end of the room, slightly facing each other with a small table or plant stand in between them.
I love how DCIRENE prefaced her advice with **Unsolicited advice--take it for what it's worth**. I don't generally take offense at comments but I'll be using this everywhere I log in online to soften any advice I give.
Thanks, and by the way, I totally agree with her suggestions too.
If at all possible, clear out the room save for the two couches (+ TV) and figure from there. I'd also go with TV on wall where bookcase is or on current location wall. Too much furniture hugging the walls & too many different styles. Maybe the added couch will help pare it down some. Add some bright color in a pllow or something; right now, the only pops of color are the plants on the sofa table. Lose those curtains!!!
Do NOT put the tv over the fireplace. I have the same problem and everyone tells me to put it over the fireplace. I tell them that i don't want to look up and cause more forehead wrinkles.
AGREE: 1) Changing out the curtains/drapes. 2) Too much furniture 3) Do not put the TV over the fireplace. I've never been a fan.
Have you thought about mounting your TV right where it is with a swing arm? Then maybe remove the TV console and put the sofa underneath the TV. May not be the best look but if you decorate around it, it may not be too bad unless you and your guest watch alot of TV. If so, then I agree with all who said to put the TV in that niche but I would still put it on a swing arm. Get a professional to do it since you'll need reinforcement for the weight of your TV to the wall. Best of luck.
Oh, sorry..then put the sofa where the TV console was.
Will this work? Use a bunch of angles. Leave the TV where it is, but get a TV stand for it more in keeping with your traditional style (like a wooden armoire). Put the tapestry-looking upholstered chair under the window at an angle so you're facing the center of the room when sitting in it. (yes, change the curtains). Angle the existing sofa in so it is at a diagonal (with the side near where the chair was coming into the room). Place your books along the top of the soffit or build-in shelves above it for the books. Angle the TV in the corner that currently has the bookcase. Place the other sofa back-to-back with this one OR place it on the opposite side at an angle (so they make an angle with each other. Everyone can sit in different groups and you can see the TV from the couches.