Q:We are trying to redesign our common area after the birth of our son, who is now 6 months old. We need to accommodate a sofa, a dining table (we already have the Ikea Norden table — great for small spaces), a place for the TV and for the cat to sleep, and ideally, an open space for our son to play. This is quite difficult considering all the doors opening into this room. Any advice and furniture suggestion would be more than welcome.
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Hard to say without knowing how big the sofa/table/TV are relative to the walls -- can't tell what would fit where. Can you add some measurements to show how long the various wall-segments are?
Where do the doors lead? Can you remove some of them to create better flow between the areas behind the doors and the living room/dining room?
Where are you putting the TV? This location will help determine where other things go, since you don't want to sit at an odd angle to the TV and you don't want it right next to you while you have dinner.
Very good point.
I think it's also important to know which doors go to which rooms in order to place table close to kitchen, play area by child's bedroom, walk through space to patio/balcony ect. The good news: only one window and all the doors open outward!
Hi Pi, It looks like we were typing door questions at the same time! :-)
I'm also curious: rental or owned? Maybe if one of the doors goes to a closed kitchen, space could be maximized with a reach through or a counter creation.
The cat wants to be in a little built in cosy box on top of the radiator, looking out the window, out of little one's reach. If that's an outside door next to the window you'll still have room leave for a second, smaller top of the radiator box for keys, phone and mail. Walk in drop keys, pet cat.
I'm sorry, but can AT not have some rules about these kinds of questions? This particular one is impossible to answer without at least some measurements (and yes, info about where the doors lead would also help a lot. And are there any windows? Is this an "internal" room with no windows only doors? Or are some or all of the doors glazed?).
There are other similar posts that have photos but don't have a floorplan. Surely there has to be some kind of minimum information requirement to get your question posted here.
@MunichMom - I'm also wondering about the lonely little window. Since there isn't more natural light, I'm wondering whether this room was originally meant to be a living room/dining room or if this is a basement apartment or something.
The obvious solution is to place the sofa along the long wall without any doors, and angle the TV in the top right corner. The cat can sleep wherever it wants to sleep (where was the cat sleeping before this, anyway?) and the dining table can be along the left wall, if you can remove some of the doors.
Yes,
Measurments are essential to answer this properly.
Without measurements, and assuming the top of the pic is North (for reference sake)...
I would float the couch in front of the SW door with a sofa table behind it leaving enough room to comfortably walk by. Place the TV stand (hopefully a low one) floating perpinicular to the wall about halfway along the S wall. The area behind the TV becomes the play area (and you can watch your little one while wathcing TV, as long as the TV isn't gigantic). The dining area is in the NE corner.
From the proportions you have in the diagram, it looks like either this room is too small to properly serve all the functions you want it to, or the doors are inordinately large. We really need a sense of scale here to give advice.
Put your sofa in the middle of the room, facing whatever wall you're going to put the tv in front of. Place your dining table up against the back of the sofa. A rug in front of the sofa will provide a play area - use the dining table behind the sofa in lieu of a coffee table (to put your drink down on etc.). You could add a chair next to the sofa for extra seating, and put a small side table between the chair and the sofa. Put storage units along the walls so you can hide toys and whatever else you need to store.
Can't figure out what to do with a furniture layout, but I would suggest building/buying from a rebuild a radiator cover, my cat loves to cozy up on top of our covers. It also helps protect your child from touching the hot radiator directly.
Have you ever used urbanbarn.com? They have a room planner. You can take lots of measurements, easily lay out your room complete with doors and windows, and drop furniture with your exact furniture's measurements right in. Then rearrange and play until you find something you like. We are moving into a new home next May, and I already have every room arranged! :0) Good luck!
I can tell you what worked for us, but I don't know how applicable it will be to your space.
We have a living/dining room with 3 entries (patio door to balcony, hallway, and kitchen). Our large L-shaped sofa separates living/TV area from the dining area (closest to the kitchen). Behind the sofa & facing the dining area, we have a sofa table with storage bins (kind of like IKEA Expedit). Then we also have the IKEA Norden table in our dining area that stays halfway folded up and against a wall, unless we're eating there with a big group. HUGE floor space for playing! The bins hold tons of toys.
So, if you can "wall off" a dining area with furniture, get some storage furniture, what you're trying to do is definitely possible.
I can try to send you photos if you'd like.
@Stationeryfiend, There is a radiator on the plan. You can probably assume that it and the doorways are standard sized, say 30-36 inches. There is a window shown above the radiator. You should be able to extrapolate enough dimensional information for giving suggestions from that.
I suggest putting the Norden table in the "upper right" corner on the plan with two petite, possibly folding chairs. You might want to look for small but comfortable chairs for dining that you can pull out for seating guests in a conversation area with the sofa. Presumably a high chair for the baby.
Sofa against wall, lower right corner. Small coffee table in front with a shelf underneath for a cat basket or bed. (My cats love that!) You might add casters so it can roll out of the way for floor play. Floor lamp/s or end table/s with table lamp/s.
One option for the TV is to wall mount it on the part of the upper right corner in the "dining" area, facing the sofa. That gives you the most open space possible without blocking any of the traffic ways through all those doors.
It is a problem space, I wish you luck!
Is the dining table really necessary at this time in your life? We packed mine up and put it in storage for the time being just so we could accommodate the swing, exersaucer, and play mat. We'll pull it back out once she's outgrown those things.
yes, it is impossible to answer without measurements and without knowing where the doors lead - you want a clear path from the kitchen to the dining table, for example, and a larger, more clear path is essential to the doors you will be walking through the most (kitchen, bathroom, bedroom) and perhaps not to ones you won't be walking through that much (little used door to the outside, for example.)
That said, here's some rules of thunb. Start with locating the dining area near the kitchen. The long wall may be the obvious place to put a couch to some, but I wouldn't in this room - in a room with a lot of doors, you are best to place the seating furniture away from the wall. Then you can walk behind it to reach doors. (you are lucky the doors all open out, if your drawing is correct.) And divide room, if large enough, as noted above, into dining and seating areas, using the couch.
My guess is that this room is not large enough to really divide like that. So, place the couch away from the wall, facing either the right or left wall (depending on which door leads to your kitchen - you don't want to walk out of the kitchen into the back of the couch.) If the kitchen is the door on top, then either way.
If the couch faces the right, put the TV in one corner on the right, and the dining area in the other corner on the right. If the couch faces left, put the tv in the place between the two doors, and eat around a table in front of the couch - get one that changes in height easily from coffee table height to dining height.
If the kitchen is the door on top, then you might put the couch along the long wall. If any door is a little used door to the outside, put the table in front of it - especially if it is a glass door, you'll get light. Or if the door next to the radiator is a little used door, put the table there - you'll have light from the window anyway, even if the door is solid.
You really didn't expect good advice from the spotty info you gave, did you?
Really hard to say without knowing which is the main entrance (landing strip), kitchen door (access to dining area), plug points (TV etc). And there are no windows, but four doors? Sorry : (
Thank you for all comments. I have in fact measured every inch of this room and the online website I used (floorplanner.com) did not allow me to show the measurement when you export the plan. I will try urbanbarn.com. The lower wall without doors measures 161 inches. The top right corner is 47 inches by 42 inches. Top door will go to baby's room when he is bigger. Right door to bedroom. Top left door to bathroom. Bottom left door to entrance and kitchen. So far we have it arranged like many of you suggested. Sofa in bottom right corner and I like the idea of mounting the TV on the wall (also out of reach of the growing baby). Do you think it is realistic to get rid of a dining table? I grew up with the family gathering around the dining table (not the TV) and it is something I would love to do with my son. Thanks again!
@Liz30. Excellent idea to put a radiator cover. I think we will really need it... It will also a great place for the cat to hang out.
Do the doors open (swing) into the room? You say they do, but the plan says otherwise. If they so, can you change the way some swing? Replace with a folding or even accordian door, at least for now?
The Norden table is pretty small - the only other option would be one of those coffee tables that turns into a dining table, But I am not sure that buys you anything. http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Manhattan-Rectangle-Adjustable-Height-Dining-and-Coffee-Table/6278066/product.html?cid=202290&kid=9553000357392&track=pspla&adtype=pla&kw=%7Bkeyword%7D
@chanchi2005 - It's realistic to get rid of a dining table, at least until your child is old enough to form lasting memories of sitting at one. How long will you be living here? A dining table isn't really for your child at this moment (being that he's so young), it's for you. And since you don't have much space to fit everything into and you have so many doors that mostly can't be removed, something has to go.
Angle couch in at top left corner so that the doors are somewhat behind the couch. Mount the tv on the right wall. Then place the dining room table parallel to the long wall without any doors or windows.
now that we know what's where, and how big, it is really easy. Couch on wall on bottom. Not too long - apartment sized. End tables on both sides. Tv on table between the two doors to the left, or mount it wherever you want. eating table in corner at top right - only place for it. Big rug in middle for playing on. Radiator cover - cat will want to sleep on there. that's about all you have room for, this being the corridor to everyplace else. You need to leave the middle of this room open to walk through, unless you want to be squeezing around furniture to get anywhere. It will work. Little baskets for toys where you have any room left.