We're offering our services free of charge. Based on a number of conversations in the past year, AT has discovered that not only are more and more men stepping into IVF/infertility clinics to unburden themselves of their small army of swimmers, delivering them a la paper cup to the lab, but these rooms are frighteningly and depressingly decorated.
Reportedly, the rooms are small, brightly lit with flourescent lights, and contain one old chair, a number of dog eared pornographic magazines from the late 90's and a television which, instead of showing some romantic, erotic one on one action, more often shows hardcore, group sex. We want to know, is this the right environment in which to begin a family?
Here at AT, we'd like to offer our services, free of charge to any IVF clinic in NYC that would like to give their rooms a makeover.
First of all we'd articulate the goal head on: To create the happiest, family friend ejaculation possible while placing minimum stress on the swimmers (so they keep swimming).
Then we'd go to work.
Here are a few suggestions:
1. Kill the flourescents. These give off a cold light, make you look awful and ruin a sensual atmosphere. We'd put in small, red pendants from Zia Priven.
2. Paint the walls with color. While a nice off-white could be fine, we'd take advantage of the situation and AT LEAST give the wall behind the TV a strong accent color to stimulate the environment. We'd go with a rich warm brown like Ralph Lauren's "Home Sweet Home".
3. Carpet the floor. Something soft under the feet makes a big difference as cutting down on anything cold in the environment will help to warm the vitals and enhance the mood. Our first choice would be the Paul Smith collection at The Rug Company, but Flor Tile would be fine in a pinch.
4. Get a new chair. Nothing kills the palate like knowing that a thousand guys have been there before you. Keeping the furniture fresh and unblemished will speed up the process and aid turnover of the rooms. Personally, we'd go with something upholstered and a little luxe from Thomas O'Brien at Aero.
5. Provide some fresh pornographic choice. Only providing one old, hardcore video may work, but is tasteless and potentially embarrassing to many men. Since the porn industry spits out hundreds of new titles in many flavors each week and they cost so little, providing a rotating selection of DVDs (and magazines) clearly labeled would really be an easy. It would also provide a much more pleasant, memorable and more virile experience for the men going through this tricky and fragile time.
Of course, we could get into more detail if we could get our hands on a few of these rooms, so please email us at newyork(at)apartmenttherapy.com and we'll come visit.
And to pay for it all, shouldn't we be able to find a donor who would like to have his name on the wing, just like the Kravis wing at the MET or the Annenberg Pavillion at NY Hospital?
(Pic: FirstIVF.net)
Comments (54)
hi
i would love to help with decor i am currently working on a series of lotho prints that deal with the human body and desire
surprise the main images are of sperm and eggs
pls contact if interested
This is a very private issue so your naming of a famous person being seen at an IVF clinic is cruel and irresponsible.
yeah -- has he discussed this personally? if not, it seems extremely inappropriate and uncalled for here.
i meant to say publicly, not personally.
point taken. the name is down. our apologies.... it was a "people" moment and we were weak.
"...instead of showing some romantic, erotic one on one action, more often shows hardcore, group sex. We want to know, is this the right environment in which to begin a family?"
Do you really want to be in the business of prescribing sexual norms? That is really not OK. Do who are you to say what the right environment for starting a family is? As a fellow New Yorker, I should not need to remind you that families take many varied forms here.
Congratulations on the weirdest AT post ever.
I would suggest hiring H.R. Giger as the design consultant (www.hrgiger.com). If he turns you down for this project, consider David Cronenberg.
i've never understood the deal w/ having porn there. it seems likea really gross way to bring a loved one into a family. i think the wives ahouls be able to, um, help.
I agree something should replace the porn, which is tacky. I think this should be shown in ferility clinics. Or better yet, this. (Both are totally work safe)
Sorry, my html tages didn't work. Click my name above for first clip. Click my name here for the second. Again, perfectly work-safe.
Good save.
Thank you.
Is this a hacker? Because April Fools Day is a month away.
I'm not quite sure I get why the lack of selection in videos/magazines is a problem.
Couldn't/shouldn't clients just bring their own? My guess is that if you have a preference, you have the appropriate material... and it certainly supports the "to each his own" idea I think you're going for here.
Heck, you can bring in Disney movies and copies of "Highlights" if you really want the "family friendly vibe."
This is one of the oddest post I've seen here. Was it a slow day and not much else to choose to post?
In a medical setting, carpet is not really a good choice. A floor needs to be able to be mopped. Fluorescent lights are economical in terms of energy usage and require fewer bulb changes. The same goes for institutional furniture - it is designed to withstand years of usage.
If you're interested in making medical offices more pleasant, why not offer your design services to a free or low cost clinic? Offer to paint their walls and find someone to donate furniture and plants (you're going to be going in and watering those plants, right?). Donate magazine subscriptions to that clinic and make sure your choices are something that the patients would actually read.
Cue twilight zone theme...
As a past client of a infertility clinic in Texas, I can tell you this post is spot on. I've spent more time than I want to remember in "collection rooms," and they are gross at best.
Vinyl bench? (Wonder why?) Sink, file cabinet of porn, and that's it. PLUS...you could totally hear the nurses talking in the hall...made it very uncomfortable and awkward to say the least!
Would love to see what you do with the rooms...I have some ideas as well.
Oh, and for the info...I'm not into porn myself, but sometimes you need a little "visual" help when sitting there listening to the nurses recap their weekend under the two inch high opening under the door. Not to mention the frustration with why you're there in the first place, the notion that you hope your goods are good enough, the fact that you can't have a kid and the reality that you're paying $200 to do this in the first place since so little of infertility treatment is covered in the first place.
If you think this post is weird, you're probably a woman who has never spent time in one of these rooms.
You didn't give this much thought now did you? I mean really, carpets and upholstery for a room in which men are expected to release bodily fluids...yuck. Vinyl would make me feel a LOT cleaner if I was in there.
I love you guys. Seriously. This is why I read this website many many times a day.
Oh and I'll certainly break out the checkbook to help with this one. The lighting is on me, as long as I get to pick the typeface my name is displayed in.
I'm sure Ralph Lauren is thrilled to have his paint mentioned/considered in this context.
But I agree about having Thomas O'Brien in the room. Oh, wait... you meant his *furniture*.
Never mind then.
(and SOOO much other material here to work with, my head is ready to explode. All puns, of course, intended.)
Not to be a big party pooper or anything, but if you're donating services free of charge, maybe there's a place you can make an even bigger impact with that donation? I dunno, a Boys and Girls Club or something...
Or an adoption agency.
i always felt that the bad porn in the whack rooms was a strong – albeit passive-aggressive – statement on the part of the nurses – as if to say, 'these men are animals. they can get off to anything. toss a copy of good housekeeping with kelly ripa on the cover or a 25 year old copy of juggs into the room and let's call it a day'.
Agree with abc and Lucie. I love that fertility clinic scene in one of those Leslie Neilson movies.
Great idea, Maxwell. People need to realize that infertility affects more people and this is worthy project. The process is a nightmare, anything to bring some humanity, humor, whatever positive to it is greatly needed.
Yes, we all can donate to the Boys and Girls Club, but right now, let's work on making infertility clinics a bit better.
And fertility docs make a lot of money, no... so couldn't they afford to make their own clinics better out of their own pockets? Or *hire* designers to do it?
A friend wrote her psych thesis on the perception of fertility doctors of their female patients. Reading it was hugely revelatory for me.
That said, offering a set of design tips that all involve spending significant money doesn't strike me as all that useful. Like telling a public school to use good china plates in the cafeteria, the idea is nice, but the reality would be foolish. I'd like to see some concrete ideas that could actually be done.
Is there a porn netflix that could provide a clinic with a constant, changing stream of their top 50 movies? Could you offer to paint the room? Can you suggest a vendor of washable furniture that is available to institutions? Can you suggest a tinted fluorescent lighting scheme? That two inch gap at the bottom of the door: can some sort of covering be added on?
I've supported many many worthy charities, and have had close friends go through the insanely expensive IVF process (tens of thousands of dollars of both physical and emotional counseling). While ultimately they decided to adopt, the hospital they went to was a non-profit and worthy of donations, and also offered financial assistance to couples seeking their services. I see no harm in supporting such an organization.
while this may be getting too far off the topic, it's important to remember that many of these ivf clinics are for-profit businesses... and highly successful ones at that. they're judged by their success ratios and, as such, are known to be a little heavy-handed with the turkey baster.... if you know what i mean.
Maxwell: I think you hit a 3.8 on the louche scale with this one. While it is terribly considerate of you to be P2's straight man -- perhaps I should rephrase that -- perhaps not -- the results may frighten the horses.
On topic: Clinics need to be easy to clean and, uh, service. Mood lighting, cosy textiles and the like would not only be difficult to maintain, it would also bring into question the medical qualifications of the establishment.
On porn: a gay friend of mine agreed to be a donor for a lesbian couple he knew. He brought his own porn.
P2: Resist. Or if you can't, come over to my place and tell me what you'd have liked to have posted but didn't want to singe Ursula's ears.
It's also odd that posters here object to making the sort of money one needs to buy some of the products and services this site offers or links to. Curiouser and curiouser
Well, I can most certainly understand wanting to volunteer design services for something like this. There's no end of things that I get a bug in my bonnet that I'd like to do, kind of like that.
For instance, if I were mayor, or whatever, I'd have people like me go around the city replacing missing letters or light bulbs from signage, and then invoicing the shopkeepers through some kind of summons.
There really are things that should just be done right, that's all there is to it. And I think that for the kinds of money people have to pay for what you're talking about here, there really should be something to make it more pleasant.
At the risk of sounding obvious, I am glad that most were able to detect the subtle humor of my post. While a serious subject, and a decidedly off-color post, the poor state of these rooms deserves to be revealed!
Curtis--when you're mayor, please add a surcharge on your invoice for misspellings and grammatical offenses on those signs! Triple damages for for plurals sporting superfluous apostrophes!
Aargh. Maxwell, can't you do something about this? People, especially me, keep unintentionally double posting because they're constantly told to reenter the security code. Aggro!
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JonathanB - no objections to spendy design ideas for the home here. I think that my objection was related to the context - I'd think that an IVF clinic would rather spend budgetary excess on upgrading their microscopes or get a couple new liquid nitrogen tanks or maybe an ergonomic set of pipetters than drop huge cash on carpet that would have to be replaced frequently and washed weekly.
I work in a lab. Our budget is probably different than IVF clinics like this. I probably erred in equating the two places. We get almost all our money from the government. To spend it on repainting the lab or getting chairs that match would be almost inconceivable. Sure, I'd love to work in a nicer looking place, but any changes to it would have to come out of my pocket if they weren't purely functional. I guess a clinic is different than that.
The other thing that struck me while doing my experiments today was that the only equivalent public spaces where men perform "sperm donation" are those porn booths and maybe an easy going strip club's lap dance room. Has anyone ever complained about the decor of either of those places?
Anyway, at the end of all this, I realized that I'd spent quite a bit of time thinking about public clinical spaces and any piece of writing that gets me thinking is obviously doing its job.
Can't they just put a computer in the room with one of those wipeable keyboard covers? Voila, a smorgasbord of porn. Or smorgasporn. Porngasbord?
I don't get it, myself. I can close my eyes and
...imagine stuff.
(And leaving off the end of the sentence REALLY WAS an accident. Sincerely.)
hmmm...been there. Only, the so-called "release room" is the extent of the man's contribution to the ordeal (medically speaking, that is). The women are typically led into cold rooms made of cinder block to have their blood drawn to check hormone levels, all while sitting on a horrid aluminum chair, several times a week, sometimes twice a day. Maybe there's something you can do for them? Especially since this is usually just the start of their treatment.
FLOUR-escent lighting is a huge problem - partly because it leaves the room covered in white powdery stuff. I don't much like fluorescents, either!
thank you ehy2k. I was thinking that. Men, in ANY medical situation, seem to get all the attention. From mammograms to pap smears, women get treatments that are both inaccurate and uncomfortable. Men get a blood test for prostate cancer. How nice! And now this? If you are too lazy to bring in your own porn or too cheap buy it on the corner then maybe parenthood isn't for you.
And carpeting? upholstery? are you nuts?
It's actually a really interesting question in general - how to make a physician's office or clinic less institutional but yet still functional.
I worked at a hospital for years as a nurse and then administrator - and I was involved in a number of facility redesigns. The architects I worked with created some lovely spaces, but we always had to put them through the wringer about Dept of Health and City requirements, how will furniture/equipment be maintained, etc, etc. Most hospitals have design specs that they don't like to stray from - so if an architect comes in with a great idea to use some funky chair for the phlebotomy area (drawing blood), the hospital will likely nix it. This is usually because functionality often wins out, or, they've been burned before by the funky chair that wasn't specifically designed for drawing blood - and later made the phlebotomists' job a nightmare. So you're often stuck with the institutional fixtures.
But, it can be done - you just have to invest some money. Again, I agree with the posters above - most IVF clinics are making enough money that they could make the public space lovely (for heavens sake, the guys aren't doing their thing in the waiting room, are they?) without requiring donated services.
re: "Men, in ANY medical situation, seem to get all the attention."
Are you serious?
JonathanB--
Don't tease me unless you mean it.
sciencegeek--
I too, thought of the *other* places where men "unburden themselves of their small army of swimmers" not being of the finest decor (although, typically dimly lit, which helps... I've HEARD).
But I think the point here was that this is "the beginning of a life" which should be beautiful... but there is sort of a flawed logic here, matching the beauty of conception with an act that begins with "BYOP": Bring your own porn.
But, IVF is indeed a scientific procedure, more clinical than romantic, and I guess if anyone has a problem with the (pardon the un-pun) sterile environment, maybe they need to rethink the whole fertility clinic route...
P2: don't tease you unless I mean it? of course I mean to tease you.
Clinical locations are usually just that - clinical - because they have to be for hygiene reasons
Men are in that room doing their stuff for hardly any time at all - it is perfectly acceptable to bring your own "stimulation" and indeed the "partner" can be there to help out - it doesn't need to be a porn-based procedure but the room does need to be easily cleanable
The room you describe would put off most hetero men more than the clinical room!
If you're going to be offering services free of charge it might be more worthwhile to offer it to somewhere where patients spend days, weeks, or months - HIV places, childrens hospitals, cancer respite hospices etc...
I can understand why plenty of men wouldn't supply their own porn; maybe they're uncomfortable buying it or renting it from the local DVD store. Also, I can imagine someone feeling awkward carrying it around in his briefcase if the appointment was during the day or right after work. If it were me, I'd be having this terrible fantasy about the lock breaking spontaneously and my papers flying all over the street...
You're assuming people aren't carrying around porn in their briefcases (or purses) every day...
We Canadians are more prudish. ;P
Why not decorate the room like the backseat of a car? Many a child has been conceived there, so the decor must be arousing.
Not the Canadians *I* know!!!
The rooms ARE for two. Partners are encouraged to help. I'm guessing none of you have done this.