Name: Andi Forker
Type of Project: Kitchen Renovation — full gut remodel
Location: San Francisco, California
Type of building: 1890's Victorian condo
The Renovation Diaries are a new collaboration with our community in which we feature your step by step renovation progress and provide monetary support towards getting it done in style.
Through our Renovation Diary program, Apartment Therapy is partnering with some lucky readers to help make their remodeling dreams come true, and to share the process with you, week by week. Meet Andi, who's doing a gut renovation of the very outdated kitchen in the condo she shares with her boyfriend. Their building dates to the 1890's, and the kitchen, which has received some halfhearted updates over the years, leaves a little something to be desired.
From Andi:
Two years ago my boyfriend and I bought a fixer-upper apartment in a classic old San Francisco building. We have been working room by room, renovating each space, and doing much of the work ourselves. The kitchen is our final major project.
What can I say about my current kitchen? I have cooked some delicious meals there, but it is a small and boxy room with one obnoxious overhead light. It was built before appliances, so the refrigerator is shoved into the pantry, where it awkwardly sticks out. The stove juts into the middle of the room. The drawers are made of plastic, the linoleum floor is peeling, and the butcher block counters are moldy. I could go on, but you get the picture. It is a cheap and shabby room in an otherwise grand apartment.

We hope to create a kitchen that reflects the Victorian architecture of the building, but also looks current, sophisticated, and timeless. Secondly, we love to cook and often work together in the kitchen, so we need a high-functioning room with more usable counter space, a better floor plan, and more convenient storage. The final goal is to create a dazzling entertainment space — a "destination kitchen" where our friends can congregate for our regular Friday night cocktail gatherings.

We are doing a gut renovation, replacing everything from the turn-of-the-century plumbing and electrical systems to the cabinetry, appliances, lighting, and counters. The one thing we hope to keep are the original Douglas Fir floors, covered by 3+ layers of linoleum in the kitchen, if they are salvageable. We also plan to maintain the tall 13-foot-ceilings and some of original wood trim.
We are removing a large lath-and-plaster wall between the existing kitchen and the back hallway. It is huge — 13 feet tall, 6 inches thick, and 15 feet long — and will generate a prodigious amount of dust. We are also demolishing the walls around an old fireplace air shaft and incorporating that space into the kitchen footprint. Together, these changes will nearly double the size of the kitchen from 95 to 170 square feet. We are doing the demolition ourselves, hoping the dust and exhaustion will be worth it for the increased space.

Thanks, Andi!
(Images & Diary Text: Andi Forker)






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Very interested in seeing your progress. We need to reno our kitchen and your layout is giving me ideas. Good Luck!
Oh I look very forward to the next update.
GO ANDI GO
Is that really linoleum? It looks like some cheap stuff, not linoleum, which is an amazing, very durable, very ecological material.
I feel your pain. When we moved into our Victorian, the kitchen was just about as cramped and bad as yours is now. The working/cooking area had been crammed into an old mud room measuring 8 x 9. The sink abutted the stove, which was up against the wall, and the oven door would scrape both the wall and the refrigerator, which was just opposite of it. Since then, we've done two major renovations and are just finishing up on what we hope is the last one: an extension that allowed for more storage and a dining area. Good luck, and I'm looking forward to seeing the results of your project!
Very ambitious...in a wonderful way. I love the layout of the new plan. Good luck to you! Can't wait to see (frequent) updates!
We're planning our kitchen reno too - very, very excited to see yours! It looks like it will be incredible when it's done. Just curious - did you consider nixing the closet in the bedroom to extend that counter space in the corner? It might be nice to have a continuous run of counter between the sink and the stove...
The kitchen has seen some rough times, so even if it was something more durable, it's clearly not durable now. The appliances look really old, so the floor must have been there for a long time too.
Since you're doing a complete gut, why not center the sink under the windows? Having a sink in a corner would irritate me so much!
Anywho, good luck with the reno!
those almond appliances make me want to barf
suggestion: Please place "before and after" diagrams side-by-side. It's really hard to study and compare when scrolling up and down between the two. Thanks.
Yay! Good luck! We took out a wall and moved our kitchen into what used to be an attached garage. There was lots drywall dust and the whole wall was filled with blown-in insulation, I'm sure that has to be somewhat comparable to lath and plaster when it comes to mess factor. But trust me, it's worth it!
Also, consider installing pex water lines when you get to the plumbing. While you have to buy a crimping tool and a manifold, we found it very easy to install as DIYers. Pex is a flexible line that doesn't require any elbows/piecing together connections, so the chances of a leak are greatly reduced.
That kitchen is tragic. It's worse than the one in the old foreclosed house I'm buying. On the other hand, you're pretty much working from the bottom up so it has to get better.
Whatever you do, please don't install any cheap ass IKEA cabinets in an 1890's SF Victorian. After seeing so many people spend huge amounts on high end appliances, floors and layout changes its a travesty that they then cheap out on the cabinets.
Your "before" pictures look like they were taken at my best friends house! I can't wait to show her the "after" pictures to give her update ideas.
Great plan. We too will be removing a wall in our kitchen reno, which is hopefully starting soon. Looking forward to following along with you.
I hope you've contacted a structural engineer or architect- that huge wall could very well be load bearing, or contain electrical/ plumbing, etc that feed the other apartments.
This will be a very interesting project to watch. I have my fingers crossed that the fir floors will be workable. When we ripped up (or tried to rip up) the flooring in our house, a previous owner had used something pretty horrible & it was impossible to remove the top layers.
I agree with Mid-C-Frank- side by side floor plans are much easier to read on a computer screen.
Good luck!
This sounds very thoughtful. Glad you are salvaging as much of the original floors and trim as you can. I also appreciate that you are keeping the stove, fridge, and sink in nearly the same location. I hate the amount of money that so many people with the costly task of relocating appliances and their corresponding pipes and electrical work just because they HAAAAVE to have it look different.
congratulations. may i recommend supporting the ceiling with either lally's or 4x4s with headers so that you dont break loose more of the plaster than you intend when pulling down the walls. make sure you have respirators, not dust masks, and handy numbers for electrician/plumber, as you never know what you will find in an old wall. I am green with envy that you have room to steal! i'd recommend buying your appliances last. if you run into budget over runs it is a whole lot easier to swap out appliances [or even counters]later than to bemoan poor cabinets. If you arent already planning to do so, double stacked wall cabinets going all of the way to the ceiling will give you lots of extra [if not easily accessible] storage for items you dont need all that often. my kitchen is 9 x 9 with 10' ceilings - i dont know what i'd do without the extra vertical storage. good uck
OH I CANT WAIT!!!!
Can't wait to see how this turns out! I'm all for salvaging, but that is one gut reno I can get behind.
I'm curious about the layout. The new plan still seems to have a lot of unused space around the utility room. Is that the front entrance to the apartment? If not, I wonder if you've considered using that space a bit more so you can take this opportunity to increase the closet space in the adjacent bedroom. Those old places have such tiny closets.
Ooh, this is EXCITING! I wonder if it's possible to WET the plaster without creating too much water-mess, to help keep down the dust.
As fixitchick says, respirators are a must - they can be had for around $20. I use mine all the time, as they also keep out toxic paint fumes, sawdust, dust in an attic, and on and on.
Can't wait to see more!
Before you start hacking away at the walls, please please be careful of any asbestos (especially in turn of the century homes like yours) that you may be disturbing. It's only harmful if it's disturbed (a.k.a., breaking it down). I suggest that you have an engineer look at it and take a sample to see if the walls have asbestos or not. Good luck in your remodeling! Sounds fantastic!
it is 30-year-old linoleum on top of 60-year-old linoleum on top of who-knows-how-old linoleum, but i agree, linoleum is a durable, eco-friendly material. just not the stuff on our kitchen floor.
christine, we left the sink in the corner because the plumbing chase containing our kitchen waste pipe is behind the closet of the bedroom next door. if we centered the sink on the window we would have to run the waste pipe through a cabinet to the left of the sink pretty much making that cabinet useless.
oops, my last comment regarding the sink was meant for DovieAnn! sorry dovie.
tallsarah, i am a licensed architect, but we also hired a structural engineer. the city would not permit the project without a stamp from a licensed professional.
dearmisha, the door from the exterior to the utility room is actually the back door to our unit. the utility room was probably the space that contained the old ice box back in the days before refrigerators. it is a step down from our kitchen so we did not want to absorb that space and have a step in the kitchen or raise the floor. besides, we like our washer and dryer hidden! as for the closet space in the adjacent bedroom, a bigger closet would be nice, but it is 30x36 so it is not too small. it's also our guest bedroom.
christine, if we remove the closet in the bedroom, our unit will no longer legally be a 2-bedroom unit. we must keep the closet. the adjacent bedroom is 9x11 so it is too small to build out a closet in the room.
christine, if we remove the closet in the bedroom, our unit will no longer legally be a 2-bedroom unit. we must keep the closet. the adjacent bedroom is 9x11 so it is too small to build out a closet in the room.
Considering all that you have to work with, I think the layout is brilliant and I can't wait to see what you do. Will you be sharing idea boards or swatches on the finishes you choose? I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to share with all us critical AT people, but I would love to see what you are planning.
Also, what is this renovation diary thing, because if AT is willing to pick up part of the tab, I've got a bathroom remodel that y'all would love to see I'm sure ;)
Can't wait to see how this goes! Good luck!
I wish I could see EVERYONE'S kitchen renos!! February Mega-Cure?
I've very excited to see how this turns out. Good luck during the process!
Bear with me: I realize that moving the wall between the 2nd bedroom and the current pantry is not insignificant, but your "after" plan shows your stove set back from the front face of the refrigerator. In a perfect world, (ha, ha), wouldn't it be nicer to have the face of the fridge, stove, and the cabinets on either side of the stove all aligned to the same plane?? And if you could move that section of the wall, you could fill the nook it creates in the bedroom with bookshelves ?? Yes ? Good luck with your project - looking forward to seeing your progress!
This is going to be amazing, so excited for you! And yes that is linoleum, been there and seen it do that! YUK!
Andi, Dean, this is so exciting! I loved, loved, loved your bathroom re-do, and have been waiting for the promised kitchen overhaul! We actually referenced your bathroom quite a bit when we re-did ours in an 1897 rowhouse, you can see here if you like: http://www.victorianinbloom.com/2012/before-and-after-bathroom/
We just finished our kitchen as well, where we had hoped to salvage the original yellow pine floors. It didn't work out due to load bearing considerations BUT we did save all of the boards, which have used to patch up holes elsewhere, and which may yet come in handy if we ever decide on a pop-up.
Anyway, all of this just to say that I am very much looking forward to these series!
This is my kind of post. Great before pics. Awesome floor plan. I'm very excited to see the process!
That last photo looks like the drawer is head-butting the floor. I find this hilarious.
Really looking forward to seeing your hard work and transformation in this space! Lot's of potential here!
So excited to see this happen!
valsj, we are actually going to purchase a counter-depth refrigerator which should align everything on that wall. although your idea of shelving in the bedroom as a good one, we are trying our hardest to to avoid scope creep (aka additional work, time and cost)!
Your bathroom looks amazing, victorianinbloom! I looked over your blog and it is fantastic also.... it is nice to virtually meet another couple who has taken on a project even bigger than ours!
thank you for the compliment! nice to meet you as well :)
Don't move any walls!!!!!! It's a vintage victorian. Leave it as pristine as you can. I have plaster walls and would NEVER give them up--plus there's less dust. You can add an undercounter fridge in the pantry and get the use back. reconfigure your kitchen and have plenty of counter space. You've got that utility room that you can put a full size freezer. Why don't architects work with what is there. Don't sacrifice a beautiful victorian just to have a big kitchen--work with what you have OR MOVE!!!!!!
I look forward to fallowing your much needed remodel.
Great reno plan and great post. I appreciate Dean's patience in answering everyone's questions so we have a better understanding of how it will unfold, and why.
That looks like vinyl. Not linoleum.
This. Is. Brilliant. You absolutely need to use that hall space! I can't believe how much room hallways can eat up... just to walk! Can't wait to see the after!
That definitely appears to be sheet vinyl. I lived with a similar kitchen floor for way too long in my previous house. I'm sure you will be so happy to see it go! We installed some beautiful marmoleum in our recent mcm kitchen upgrade.
Dean, you will not regret having your kitchen sink off-set. The pipe was a blessing in disguise. You have literally doubled your prep space. I centered a sink below three large windows at my cottage (factory formed corian) and it was a big mistake. You will enjoy the large prep space to the right of the sink and across from your island. Great plans.