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Joan A.
on May 23rd 2008 at 8:54am view
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shoe lace made me laugh, not the others
posted by
Kate (NC)
on May 23rd 2008 at 9:11am view
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Woman stabbed in the back and killed, woman on all fours licking up a dirty shoelace? I'm not incapable of seeing the absurdist humour in the situations presented, but the way the gender roles play out is definitely misogynist.
posted by
otis
on May 23rd 2008 at 12:13pm view
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Boys are messy! How is that misogynist?
posted by
K T G
on May 23rd 2008 at 2:25pm view
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Okay, "boys are messy" is sexist... Images of violence (stabbed with a fork) and degradation (crawling around on the floor in an attempt to seduce a man and ending up eating an old shoelace) is misogynistic. It's so common to see women depicted this way (particularly in advertising), but how often do we see men in the same positions?
posted by
otis
on May 23rd 2008 at 4:42pm view
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tough crowd.
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Cucaracha
on May 23rd 2008 at 5:03pm view
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They're going to go with stereotypes with commercials. Men are generally thought of as less tidy then women, and the tag line "If not for yourself, at least for the others." means that it's going to be OTHER people suffering at the hands of their dirtiness. Sure, they could have a male friend suffer, but quite frankly it's more humorous when it's a love interest.
Misogyny is hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. I fail to see how these commercials meet that definition. If anything, it's showing that, out of love for the women in their lives, men should be cleaner. The average man certainly isn't going to consider being cleaner for their friends. I hate it how the simplest things like this get turned into some kind of accusation of hatred of women on Ikea's part. That's as baseless as saying that they dislike kids for that last one.
"It's obviously just taking advantage of how innocent and clueless children are!"
posted by
Ajax's
on May 23rd 2008 at 6:38pm view
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They're using the concept that sex sells and making a joke about it. They are saying men are pigs who need to become a little tidier if they expect to get laid.
I don't take the examples as independent ideas the marketers had to portray women this way, but rather to portray women this way with the idea to satirize the usual idea. Maybe they missed and the ads weren't very good or who knows why they stopped, end of campaign usually.
The hook seemed to be in the date-themed ads to attract men to IKEA, men who don't already live with women who make them go (stereotype?), who need to not repel women. Yeah this girl is sexy, huh, go to IKEA and make your apartment not so unwelcoming, disgusting, or dangerous. I think it's a satire of a typical ad because it's so over-acted. Women in normal advertisements act sexy over the product men use, and these women are being defeated by lack of the product or effortless organization. Single men without intrusive mothers should be encouraged to make a neat and safe space; even if they don't care or notice, women notice, shop at IKEA.
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K T G
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everyone here so over-analyzed this. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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the last one was funny!
view gas0line7's profile
Hysterical!
view bepsf's profile
Sick.
view nazrd's profile
Hm. Not so funny to me.
view Jezebella's profile
Hey, the other two aren't funny either. Why must it always be women who are the butt of these "jokes"?
view Jezebella's profile
Love the older IKEA comercials!
view pkswede's profile
Oh, yes, I'm sure misogyny was at the top of their checklist. But then, I find everybody ridiculous and an easy target for humor.
Take humorless people, for example.
view btoddster's profile
Plus, the guys *I* know would really be into sucking on the tennis shoe lace, so the joke would be totally blown.
So to speak.
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(P(too), where have you been all these months?)
view Joan A.'s profile
shoe lace made me laugh, not the others
view Kate (NC)'s profile
Woman stabbed in the back and killed, woman on all fours licking up a dirty shoelace? I'm not incapable of seeing the absurdist humour in the situations presented, but the way the gender roles play out is definitely misogynist.
view otis's profile
Boys are messy! How is that misogynist?
view K T G's profile
Okay, "boys are messy" is sexist... Images of violence (stabbed with a fork) and degradation (crawling around on the floor in an attempt to seduce a man and ending up eating an old shoelace) is misogynistic. It's so common to see women depicted this way (particularly in advertising), but how often do we see men in the same positions?
view otis's profile
tough crowd.
view Cucaracha's profile
They're going to go with stereotypes with commercials. Men are generally thought of as less tidy then women, and the tag line "If not for yourself, at least for the others." means that it's going to be OTHER people suffering at the hands of their dirtiness. Sure, they could have a male friend suffer, but quite frankly it's more humorous when it's a love interest.
Misogyny is hatred, dislike, or mistrust of women. I fail to see how these commercials meet that definition. If anything, it's showing that, out of love for the women in their lives, men should be cleaner. The average man certainly isn't going to consider being cleaner for their friends. I hate it how the simplest things like this get turned into some kind of accusation of hatred of women on Ikea's part. That's as baseless as saying that they dislike kids for that last one.
"It's obviously just taking advantage of how innocent and clueless children are!"
view Ajax's's profile
They're using the concept that sex sells and making a joke about it. They are saying men are pigs who need to become a little tidier if they expect to get laid.
I don't take the examples as independent ideas the marketers had to portray women this way, but rather to portray women this way with the idea to satirize the usual idea. Maybe they missed and the ads weren't very good or who knows why they stopped, end of campaign usually.
The hook seemed to be in the date-themed ads to attract men to IKEA, men who don't already live with women who make them go (stereotype?), who need to not repel women. Yeah this girl is sexy, huh, go to IKEA and make your apartment not so unwelcoming, disgusting, or dangerous. I think it's a satire of a typical ad because it's so over-acted. Women in normal advertisements act sexy over the product men use, and these women are being defeated by lack of the product or effortless organization. Single men without intrusive mothers should be encouraged to make a neat and safe space; even if they don't care or notice, women notice, shop at IKEA.
view K T G's profile
everyone here so over-analyzed this. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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ok...not everyone...just some people have absolutely no sense of humor at all
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