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Q: My fiance and I are purchasing our first apartment! We're very excited to move from our 300 square foot converted studio into a proper one bedroom — 510 square feet! In the spirit of making our bedroom a sanctuary free of visual clutter, we've decided to use the entire leftmost wall of the room for clothing storage...

 
 

After following up on a recent Dwell article on closet systems, I fell in love with the photos of the Gliss 5th system, made by Molteni & C. I love the idea of a wall of warm wooden-looking panels concealing all of the storage!

I'm writing because I haven't been able to figure out where one can order this Italian-made system in the US. All attempts to find out, including contacting Molteni, have not yielded results. Has anyone seen this system and/or know where to find it in the US?

My second motive is to find out if any Apartment Therapy readers know of another closet system (must fit in a 30"deep space) with a similar look and feel that I might be able to explore as an alternative. Perhaps there's something better out there that I'm not aware of, or maybe Gliss 5th will be astronomically expensive.

Thanks so much!

Sent by Rachel

Editor - My guess is YES, Gliss 5th is going to be expensive BUT there is a New York Flagship store in SoHo: Molteni&C Dada Unifor - Flagship Store 60 Greene St. New York, NY 10012 — and the systems are sold in 10 major cities in the US, listed here.

Who has suggestions for less expensive options?

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I hope nobody flames me for this, but my favorite wardrobe system has been IKEA Pax for a long time. If we had a place to put it, I'd have it with those gorgeous glass/aluminum doors.

posted by spanky on July 24th 2009 at 3:24pm
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Ikea's Pax: one sliding door wardrobe and one single door unit would just about be wall-to-wall. Put a little wood along the edges painted the color of your walls, and it will look like it's built in. I noticed that Gliss 5th is also particleboard, so if you're looking for cheaper - Ikea seems to be the perennial answer.

posted by home body on July 24th 2009 at 3:29pm
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Oops. I am such a loser for not thinking of mousing over the "Distribution Network" link...thanks for not mocking me. :) I guess I was in a hurry and looking for "Stores" or "Retailers" and Molteni never answered my e-mails, probably because my question could have been easily addressed by the site!

Anyway, so yes, less expensive attractive closet suggestions would be great! Thanks!

posted by carignane on July 24th 2009 at 3:32pm
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another vote for ikea pax. we've had ours for two years and it still looks and works great (have the glass/aluminum sliding doors). it seems like most of the schmancy wardrobe systems are particleboard/laminate anyway, so it wasn't worth it to us to spend 3 times as much as we did at ikea.

posted by gretchenalexis on July 24th 2009 at 3:41pm
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My husband and I used California Closets to fit out two condo closets for us. It ended up being a lot cheaper than I expected. He's particularly happy with the end result as we got the laundry hamper that as his idea.
I researched some of the other closet companies here in Vancouver, but I found CC to have the best quality and finish at their lower price range. I am already planning to use them again in our new house once we moved in.

posted by playminxie on July 24th 2009 at 3:48pm
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Personally I have been eyeing the Lumeo from Ligne Roset, it's very customizable however it's not exactly "cheap". ;)

posted by alexandre on July 24th 2009 at 4:18pm
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As preparation for sticker shock, you should estimate that a system like the Molteni wardrobe will run you no less than about $1400 per horizontal foot. It rises rapidly from there given all of the bell, whistles, and custom options.

Jesse Italia makes wardrobes and closet systems with a similar Italian contemporary vibe but for about 30-40% less. They are fully customizable as well. Here is one example, but they have many styles, colors, and interiors choices:

http://www.jesse.it/ing/products/night-collection/plurimo-wardrobes/sliding-doors/breeze.html

Ordering a custom system is usually a lengthy process. Estimate about 4-6 months from order to installation as everything is custom manufactured in Europe and shipped over. If you need something even quicker, here are a couple of options on clearance at Usona:

http://www.usonahome.com/detail.aspx?ID=3211&ndx=-1&categoryid=83

http://www.usonahome.com/detail.aspx?ID=3221&ndx=-1&categoryid=83

I considered all of these options, but ended up using Ikea kitchen cabinets with brown/black doors and floor to ceiling curtains for my bedroom storage. I managed an entire wall of storage (about 14 horizontal feet) for just over $1000:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28955208@N05/3455293186/

posted by RichardinLA on July 24th 2009 at 5:12pm
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Thanks to everyone so far!

RichardinLA, that is brilliant, beautiful, and very similar to the aesthetic I am hoping for! What do you have behind the curtains? A shelving system? Drawers? Are the kitchen cabinets a good size for clothing items or are other things stored in there?

posted by carignane on July 24th 2009 at 5:31pm
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Thanks carignane - glad I could help! Right now I have rolling wardrobe racks for clothes behind the curtains but there are a variety of options depending on how "finished" you want that space behind the curtain to be. You could use a closet organization system like this one from West Elm to add drawers and storage and clothing racks:

http://www.westelm.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?partNumber=WE-PRODa385&storeId=17001&langId=-1&catalogId=17002&viewSetCode=E&parentId=WE-SH1ACCCST&retainNav=true&cmsrc=WE-SH1ACCCST

http://www.westelm.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?partNumber=WE-PRODa388&storeId=17001&langId=-1&catalogId=17002&viewSetCode=E&parentId=WE-SH1ACCCST&retainNav=true&cmsrc=WE-SH1ACCCST

or you could use a much nicer system like the Plurimo Walk In closet system from Jesse Italia (featured on the left side of this first image):

http://www.jesse.it/ing/products/night-collection/plurimo-walk-in-closet.html

The walk in closet system is essentially all of the wardrobe interior elements without the doors or frame. Custom cladding of your finish choice is mounted to the walls and then the shelving, racks and storage are mounted to the cladding to give it a very seamless look. There are no unsightly mounting racks like you might find with a system from the Container Store, for example.

As for the Ikea kitchen cabinets, they come in 2 depths: 12" and 24". Mine are the 12" so I use them mostly for books, dvds, and folded clothes. If you wanted to use them for clothing storage, I would go with the 24" depth and outfit them with the clothing racks from the Pax wardrobe system. The advantage of the kitchen systems over the Pax systems is that they have many more customizable options to help you get as close to a built-in look as possible. I also prefer the door choices that are available with the kitchens. It took many trips to Ikea before it finally dawned on me that cabinets are cabinets. It doesn't matter what part of the store you find them in!

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask here or on my flickr page.

posted by RichardinLA on July 24th 2009 at 6:10pm
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Another vote for IKEA PAX.

Even if you don't care for the doors that are available, you could have a local craftsman create doors that will fit your units for FAR-FAR less than the Italian system...
...tho I suggest that if you are considering the IKEA door/drawerfronts - consider using non-IKEA handles/pulls so that it's not instantly identifiable as IKEA.

posted by bepsf on July 24th 2009 at 6:49pm
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My boyfriend and I have Ikea Pax and we love it. However, it's a nightmare to purchase and put together. Also, be careful how you store in the apartment. All the pieces are fragile. If you go this route, really plot out how you want the inside organized before you put on the doors.

posted by lipstick1 on July 24th 2009 at 9:45pm
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How about a great made-in-the-USA product, sustainably sourced and made by craftsmen? Me, I love Henrybuilt.

http://www.henrybuilt.com/main.php?jumpTo=showroom

(under "whole house", then "wardrobe/closet")

posted by mschatelaine on July 25th 2009 at 4:32am
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I too have Ikea Pax and contrary to lipstick1's comment I found it very easy to rearrange my interior fittings after putting on the doors. In fact I really like that you can do that, or add new fittings if you feel like it.

posted by idontdobeige on July 25th 2009 at 8:54am
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Nothing much to add except that I too love a minimalist bedroom, so much easier to relax when your eye's got fewer distractions!

I hope you find the right answer at the right price. :)

posted by yeti3a on July 25th 2009 at 11:21am
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If you're looking for a cheaper option...I used Smart Closet Solutions, and they were amazing! They did a custom renovation of my non-walk in closet for under $1,000 total.

http://www.smartclosetsolution.com/

They're based in Brooklyn, and I seriously doubt you'll find better quality at their prices.

posted by Underhill on July 27th 2009 at 11:28am
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Another vote for CALIFORNIA CLOSETS.

Ordering a custom system is acutally not a lengthly process. California Closets works with North American vendors, so there is no waiting for European shipments that come from across the globe, leaving a high carbon footprint. A Design Consultant meets with you to determine your exact needs, drawings are made, the order submitted, and when they install, it usually only takes a day or two if you are installing a larger walk-in. I was impressed that the installers wear booties on their feet to keep my floors clean, and never left a mess behind. Only a beautiful system that organizes me and keeps me sane!

posted by klahaye on July 27th 2009 at 3:57pm
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