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HELP!!!! Okay - I just bought a townhouse in Park Slope brooklyn and I am trying to make it moderately contemporary as I dislike the Victorian thing. My question: is it totally crazy to use stone or marble tile for the foyer, rather than wood? What kind of tile would make sense for a brownstone? Moroccan? Simple beige marble? HELP!

Thanks, Jonathan (note: pic is from Google)

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Jonathan, simply put, go contemporary, avoid Sopranos Italian and have fun. Look at stone over marble. Keep the color warm. There are many good places you could look at for inspiration. Here are few:

New York Mag: The Home Design Issue
This interior from The Rug Co website
Ann Sacks:
they have a beautiful showroom with really nice contemporary tile and stone that will give you a good feel for how it might look in your home.

Also, hotel lobbies in Soho are good sources of inspiration because they use harder surfaces in their lobbies due to the traffic, but have beautifully combined their modern aesthetic with the old New York buildings they are in. Look at The Mercer and 60 Thompson Street....

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Um, I think stone/marble in a foyer is actually pretty true to the Victorian roots, but I second your inclination and MGR's urgings to keep it modern and fresh as in the great samples he's provided.

But please, please please... if you have any nice architectural detail still left, don't obliterate it. Get your modern vibe with what you add (and how you paint/add hardware), not by what you subtract. Find some way to honor the history of the house.

But if insistent on removing anything period, work with a salvage company that can find them new homes, so the detail is not lost to a dumpster...

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2005-11-07 13:38:39

Stone tile is definitely "period" -- that was the era of encaustic tile. A sample:
http://www.arttile.com/victorian-tile.asp

As you can see, it's somewhat of a mosaic look. For a more contemporary feel that's still in scale with the proportions of the original brownstone (assuming historic details are still there), I'd be tempted to try one of two approaches:

--Mosaic floor, but in contemporary colors. Black and white? Mosaic of whites and off-whites? Mosaic of exciting contemporary glass and metallic tiles? You'd have all sorts of options.

--Use larger stone tiles to get more contemporary proportions on most of the floor, but strategically inset a few "special" tiles that pick up the original historic feel.

Bear in mind that I like a little historic feel, just not too much and not suffocating me (as high Victorianism is wont to do).

posted by wende in san francisco on 2005-11-07 13:48:33

What about Moroccan tile? This sounds sort of nutty but it is light in color and sort of appeals to me. if i screw this up the wife is going to kill me

posted by jonathan on 2005-11-07 14:34:50

I have recently seen Moroccan tile in a couple of super modern kitchens and it looked great. If I remember correctly dwell magazine had a modern kitchen with Moroccan tile a few issues back.
Personally I love the juxtaposition of old and new and the introduction of pattern to the modern palette as seen in the insurgence of modern wallpapers and carpets... so why not in tile.... try it out... It’s your place; you don't have to worry about your landlord.

posted by kristian on 2005-11-07 14:58:01

Moroccan tile like the little mosaic tiles? Or is there some new meaning?
http://www.moroccan-tiles.com/

If it's the mosaic tile style, that would be an incredibly perfect solution on many levels. The Moroccan tiles retain the scale and visual complexity of a "period" design but give you freedom to choose your own color scheme. Plus, exoticism was big when your house was new as well as being big now. And of course, a lively design in stone humanizes a sleek contemporary look while still being pretty sleek itself.

posted by wende in san francisco on 2005-11-07 15:09:47

I'm going to say it... stick with the wood. Have you thought of simply taking the wood floors very dark and leaving the walls very light? Professionally refinishing an old wood floor can really give it a fresh look without destroying the original elements. There is no reason that wood can't look clean and contemporary and there is nothing intrisically contemporary about tile. 90% of the time, the best solution is to work with the architecture that you have. Look to some of the french interiors magazines for inspiration. They seem to manage some really beautiful clean modern looks inside ornate older french apartments. Catherine Memmi would be a particular inspiration in this regard. Check her website as I believe the press section has lots of pictures of her homes and homes she has decorated.

And remember that when it comes time to sell, you will be very happy you respected the original period elements of your brownstone.

posted by Richard in LA on 2005-11-07 20:27:27

I agree with Richard - a dark ebony wood floor with light, neutral colored walls is a really beautiful simple and modern look.

posted by rkw24 on 2005-11-08 10:21:15

(asuming of course, that a wood foyer was indeed original to your house, as the foyers in many of this vintage of home was indeed tile...)

Another person beside Richard's mention of Catherine Memmi (gorgeous stuff!) would be Kelly Hoppen.

I think the Brits and Europeans all have much more experience working modernism sensitively into vintage shells than do designers stateside... with the possible exception of some of the DC desigenrs like Thomas Pheasant and Darryl Carter. So I'd peruse the UK shelter mags to get inspiration.

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2005-11-08 11:43:27

WERE indeed tile. Sorry.

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2005-11-08 11:52:46

and "aSSuming". and "designers".

Oy. I need to go back in bed.

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2005-11-08 11:54:30

When you say a "dark ebony wood" what would do you have in mind? Is that a stain or actual walnut? The moroccan tile i have in mind is about $14 a square foot, not ludicrously more than wood but certainly more

posted by jonathan on 2005-11-08 13:46:14

Since you're in the New York area, you may want to contact Mosaic House (www.mosaichse.com). The owner there was really helpful when I went in and they have some amazing Moroccan tiles to choose from. He showed a lot of modern homes with their tiles added to the mix and I've got to say I was impressed with the level creativity the tiles gave homeowners and/or designers.
Their tiles are all handmade and cut in Morocco, so it does inflate the price a bit.
If you're still considering Moroccan tiles and are in the Flatiron area, you should definitely stop by. I think the owners name was Benz.

Good luck with your search!

posted by Carol on 2006-12-07 13:17:32


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posted by picotto on 2007-08-23 14:36:17
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I'm an interior designer in San Francisco and i've done so many Moorish inspired homes .
There is a company called Saint Tropez Boutique located in San francisco who specialized in all the Moorish inspired home decor and Moroccan tiles you may check out their websites:

http://www.sainttropezboutique.us
http://www.sainttropezstone.com
http://www.sainttropezboutique.net

or just call them at : (415) 513-5920
they also have a georgous showroom located at : 25 evelyn way, San Francisco, CA 94127

Marie,

posted by marie54 on 2008-03-04 17:34:01
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