Hello AT,
I understand that a Delonghi built-in gas oven was installed in the "9 month cure" apartment. Any feedback? We had one installed yesterday and the very noisy fan runs all the time and then continues to run for 2 hours after the oven is turned off. Is this normal?
Thanks, LBlum
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Dear L,
We've experienced the same thing, although it has either lessened with time or we don't notice it as much anymore. The fan runs while the oven is on and then for quite a long time afterwards as if to cool the oven, but it hardly seems to need that much "cooling".
If both of our ovens are doing it, it must be normal, but it can still be annoying - particularly in a small space.
We just gave a call to EuroChef who sells them in the US, and they said that the fan cools the glass, handle and control panel. It is meant to cool for up to 20 minutes and beyond, after the oven is off. They say it is a "high end" feature and - unfortunately - can't be changed. "It has to do what it has to do," they say.
C'est la vie!
My convection oven (not a DeLonghi) also does this. Just leave the oven door cracked when you're done. It shortens the fan time to about 15 or 20 minutes.
We have a double Viking electric convection oven with fans that run and run and run...
we got the same answer -
and this is just the tip of the I-hate-Viking-appliances iceberg.
I was thinking of getting a DeLonghi stand-alone gas convection oven/ range. other than the fan noise-- what do you think of the oven? Significantly different than, say, an avanti? Here are some specific questions I've been wondering about:
(1) does it insulate the heat well? (i.e., does the whole kitchen heat up when you use it?)
(2) how is it to clean?
(3) does the convection really work? (i.e., noticeable improvement in your cookies?)
I recently upgraded to a Dacor convection oven and I love it. I definitely see a quality improvement in baked goods and it does reduce overall cooking time for roasts, etc.
I don't notice any problems with the kitchen heating up, but I agree about the fan - it does tend to run for awhile after I turn the oven off. I will try cracking the oven door next time!
I have the same experience w/ our Kitchenaid convection oven. I wouldn't say it's noisy, but it's definitely noticeable. Sometime I have to double check to see if the oven is still on. From all the comments, it seems like that's a common problem no matter the brand.
Thanks for the feedback. I certainly wish that I had known this before I bought the oven. It should be interesting how much heat the oven vents when used in the summer. We just installed a water efficient toilet and have a Conserv refrigerator; but this oven must be a real energy hog with that fan going so long.
I've heard that Miele is much quieter, but it would have required bringing up a 220 line and it is much more expensive. Funny, but our old oven didn't make any noise, I guess because it didn't have a fan. Maybe innovations like these don't really add up to progress.
LBlum
everyone who pays market rate in nyc pays for the GR's to live in the West Village.
I"M TIRED OF PAYING RENT FOR THE GR's!!!
I purchased a new stove last year, a white Frigidaire with four burners, one a power burner, it has a convection oven and is also self-cleaning. I love it. Previously I had a regular gas stove and I decided to upgrade when it became problematic the second time. I had inherited the stove with the purchase of my duplex and after pricing stoves, decided that the second repair job would just about equal the cost of a new one. It cooks meat (I only eat chicken, turkey and fish) wonderfully. It does not heat up the kitchen. Since my home tends to be cold,(in the winter), I had gotten into the habit of leaving the oven door open after cooking,to let the heat warm the apartment, it does not keep it half as warm for half as long as the regular gas stove did. The oven cools quickly and I then close the door. So Kathryn (1)the whole kitchen does not heat up (2)it is self cleaning (3)there is a noticable difference in the cooking of meat, it's faster. And I need to keep a eye on muffins and toasting while using the broiler. Well worth the money if you have the space for a full stove.
Stephen -- this is a design blog, not a real estate blog. If you want to have a duel about rent laws over on Curbed or Gothamist, I'll be there!
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/news/at-is-on-oprah-now-018277
a long read, but necessary
ah yes, the eternal debate on rent stablization. In the meantime, I'm grateful there's a blog where I can ask other apartment-dwellers about which stoves they like.
You know, I did read most of the long postings above. Very informative. But right now, I really care more about whether anyone besides DeLonghi makes a good 24" gas convection oven/range. Anyone know?
p.s. I have a don't ask/ don't tell policy concerning whether you pay market rent and what your salary is, so don't be afraid to respond to my question about convection ovens.
peace.
I have the DeLonghi 24" convection gas oven/range (a recent purchase) and have been happy with it so far. I have had quite a few compliments on it too. I have not found that it overheats my kitchen and the fan has not bothered me - in this weather leaving the door open when done has not been a bad thing, and I have found it to shorten the "cool down".
I haven't tried the convection yet and I haven't had to clean the oven... otherwise cleans up pretty well
"I really care more about whether anyone besides DeLonghi makes a good 24" gas convection oven/range. Anyone know?"
On the upper end, there are a few manufacturers that make 24" ranges:
1. Bluestar
http://www.eurostoves.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?cart_id=1167835498.3088&product=Ranges!Bluestar&pid=574
2. Viking
http://www.universal-akb.com/24vikgasranv.html
3. Capital
http://www.capital-cooking.com/in_psgr244.htm
If you really want to get lots of info on appliances, you should go to
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
Lots of people there rave about Bluestar.
VickyA,
No, my kitchen does not heat up at all. It does have a self-cleaning mode, I've only used it once and I still had to clean the window in the door. It's a little bit of a pain to run, because you have to remove the racks and the fan cover (it would melt, otherwise).
I believe that it does reduce the overall time when cooking items that usually require longer cooking times by around 20% and you can cook at a lower temperature. I've only had the oven a couple of months, so I'm still experimenting.
I found that there is a bit of a learning curve; mine has both regular bake, convection bake and "pure convection" modes and I find myself frequently referring to the user's manual while I get the hang of it.
Overall though, I am much happier with this than I was with my standard GE oven!
We're in the planning stages of a kitchen remodel, and hadn't even thought about the specifics of convection vs regular...do convection ovens run on gas? Are they more energy efficient than regular?
So many things to think about?!
I'm curious about it: my husband has his heart set on an in wall oven, with a microwave and a warming drawer - would a convection remove the need for the microwave and warming drawer?
Convection oven fans need to run for a bit after the heat has turned off to keep the fan engine from baking. It's a trade-off: electricity use now for fan engine longevity, well, later.
I was told by a salesman at PC Richards, by the way, that it is illegal to place a gas oven in a cabinet -- though one can put it in a wall. Does anyone know whether this is true?
Tom,
Back when MGR posted the first pictures of their completed kitchen a few months ago, I asked the same question. The photos seemed to show that they installed the gas oven directly below the gas cooktop, which I had heard was not allowed but I'm not sure. A short time after I posted my comment, the entire thread was removed from the blog.
Although I'm still not certain if their installation was to code or not, that whole episode made me question AT's credibility. At the very least, someone who helps design living spaces should at least follow code.