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Hi Apartment Therapy, I have a color and "room flow" dilemma — when I renovated my kitchen, a friend suggested high gloss red cabinets. I thought it sounded cool, and it turned out great. The living/dining area was painted a neutral beige, not taking the "flow" of the apartment into consideration. There is a pass-through window from LR/DR area to the kitchen. And the beige and high gloss red do not play well together. Since the kitchen works, and painting is much cheaper than getting new cabinets, the L/D area is getting a new coat. The question is, what color? Am open to anything, including dark colors, but some things to note about the space...

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• the floor and most furniture in the L/D area are dark wood, stained walnut
• the space gets a TON of light throughout the day
• bedroom is green so would prefer something other than green

Thanks!
Jeff

Anyone with advice for Jeff?

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Dark gray/blue like in House Call: Jon's Contemporary Hybrid (Benjamin Moore Wolf Gray) would look cool.

posted by Lizzykewl on June 11th 2009 at 3:05pm
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I think you're on the right track with some of those foggy blues you have taped up.

posted by ichi on June 11th 2009 at 3:05pm
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i vote for BM's Oxford Gray...it has kind of a blueish hue to it, which would play nice with the red cabinets, chrome accents, and dark wood. also, its masculine and looks good with most greens, too, which would transition nicely into your bedroom.

posted by Kpaige13 on June 11th 2009 at 3:07pm
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Battleship Grey

posted by bepsf on June 11th 2009 at 3:13pm
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As long as you use a couple of decor items (pillows, vase, art, etc) within the living/dining area....any color you paint it should work. Just pick a color you love that goes with your other stuff.

posted by baileyb on June 11th 2009 at 3:15pm
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I'm on board with everyone else . . . go for a smokey grey or foggy blue (I lean more toward the grey). The room gets a lot of light, so it shouldn't close in too much, and the red of the cabinets will really pop against the smokey color. Bring in some lighter colors in accessories and you'll have a really fun dining room!

posted by Limeliteshines on June 11th 2009 at 3:15pm
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decor items matching the red on the cabinets is what I meant.

It is the end of the week and my brain is mush.

posted by baileyb on June 11th 2009 at 3:16pm
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I don't think the colors are the problem the area around the pass through looks bare. Put up some art. I have a similar set up in my condo and I always think it looks weird to have the area around the pass through empty.

posted by ec05 on June 11th 2009 at 3:21pm
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As an aside, your pass-through looks a bit high and awkward as is -- do you actually use it to pass through dishes?? Most pass-throughs have some kind of seating on the other side.

posted by Lisa (Montreal) on June 11th 2009 at 3:23pm
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Definitely a gray-blue... but not a gray. I think the red is a big harsh against ANY neutral.

posted by shockthebourgeois on June 11th 2009 at 3:26pm
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"a big harsh"

Sheesh. I meant "a bit."

posted by shockthebourgeois on June 11th 2009 at 3:26pm
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I'd use an intense blue to make the red cabinets come out beautifully - and white (white on the wall where the light falls on to). I'd choose artwork in red, yellow and blue (cobra!) to complete my colour scheme ;-).
http://www.galeries.nl/kunstwerkz.asp?idnr=70558&artistnr=5014&sessionti=24873119

posted by Elise_B on June 11th 2009 at 3:29pm
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Grey would look awesome, especially a nice steel grey or something similar. I would also say blue except that I'm unfond of blue in food-related rooms. That said, I quite like the teal/blue color, third sample up, that you have in your picture.

posted by Tiamat_the_Red on June 11th 2009 at 3:31pm
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yes a dark grey, grey paint is hard you can try suggested ones and others just get small samples and test them on the wall live with several options for a couple of days. Look at them different times a day because the last thing you want is any purple undertones for your space.

Paint the base board as well do not leave white. I think when you have a beefed up larger profile baseboard ok in a different color but the skimpy ones not.

You will need to bring the red back into the dining area and not in another solid way. I would get some fun slip covers for those chairs break it up.

posted by LoriSF on June 11th 2009 at 3:31pm
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grey!

posted by litlmiss on June 11th 2009 at 3:39pm
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pale silvery bluish grey. My style is a little less modern but I have lots of red in my house and the pale blue compliments it really well.

posted by Auburn on June 11th 2009 at 3:45pm
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those two blue-ish swatches near the bottom of what youve chosen would look nice against both the floor and the red cabs. nice color combo.. n very similar to what ive been toying around with.

posted by deeboyayay on June 11th 2009 at 3:46pm
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I like the darker grays you have chosen and note that they seem to play well with the beige. Have you thought about painting the pass through wall as an accent? I think this might make the space feel more whole, so it doesn't feel as much like the kitchen is behind a wall.

posted by speck on June 11th 2009 at 3:47pm
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White.

posted by slowdown on June 11th 2009 at 4:05pm
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"Most pass-throughs have some kind of seating on the other side."

Not if they were built in the 1930's-1960's
- most were just a hole in the wall, or had shutters to close off the kitchen.

It wasn't until the mid-60's-1970's that eating counters came into vogue.

posted by bepsf on June 11th 2009 at 4:23pm
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I just went through a similar dilema,
I have a red sofa that I love but figuring out what to paint the walls was tricky.
I ended up choosing a dark grey for an accent wall (the wall behind the sofa) and a really nice pale yellow for the other spaces. Yellow was hard because I didn't want it to be to country looking. I have white trim.
The colors I used are by General Paint, the yellow is called Yates and the Grey is called Lamantha.

I think for your space and the dark furniture you have, Greys and blues would look wonderful.

posted by wendy-rae on June 11th 2009 at 4:24pm
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Personally, I don't like blue-gray, coz I don't like blue most of the time. Taupe and red look great together, probably because both brown and gray look good with red.

I'm not crazy about expanses of colors together with the same intensity. That's probably not the correct color term, but some of those blue-grays on the wall are as strong as the red; to me the colors fight one another. Actually, I love red and white together. "Glacier White" is a BM paint on the cool side with gray undertones. And with the dark wood and gray accents...

posted by magicsbm on June 11th 2009 at 4:29pm
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panels in wood the same tone as the furniture.... in squares, simple and will really give the room an upscale flair.

posted by manu_pty on June 11th 2009 at 4:48pm
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I would do light blue gray, on the accent wall. Use some decor to the left of the open space, using some red, orange... It definitely needs more art work.

posted by Pia1974 on June 11th 2009 at 6:51pm
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I like the bottom swatch.

posted by apbs on June 11th 2009 at 7:13pm
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Paint the pass-thru wall red....it will look great with the kitchen. Right now it just looks like an awkward hidey-hole.

What kind of light does your apartment get? North, south, east, west? If you get cooler north and east light, a grey or blue grey could look downright drab most of the year.

I'd just paint the pass-thru wall red and wait and see how the beige ends up looking because of it.

I think that beige looks pretty good, IMO.

posted by ohjodi on June 11th 2009 at 9:38pm
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I would paint the LR grey - light grey or steel grey, depending on your preference.

posted by YL2008 on June 11th 2009 at 11:20pm
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1 on grays, but not too dark - from the looks of the photo you're a long way from the natural light source and you run the risk of making a small space feel smaller.

As an out-there suggestion, have you thought about buying some ply and boarding the pass-through up? From the looks of where the door is (and the table positioning, though this may just have been for the photo) it doesn't look like the pass-through is strictly necessary. The kitchen looks like it might be quite cosy if it were enclosed and it would give you free rein in the dining / living space. Just a thought.

posted by edwood on June 12th 2009 at 2:21am
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I don't like the blue-greys; they, along with the builder's beige, make your space seem quite dull (which is probably why your friend suggested red in the first place -- to liven things up).

Paint everything a wonderful white. Donald Kaufman makes the most beautiful whites -- check them out. They change along with the lighting conditions. The kitchen, in any case, needs to be white with those cabinets.

http://www.donaldkaufmancolor.com/

Then, I would paint an accent wall in a truly bold colour -- perhaps Yves Klein Blue. Or check out the Corbusier fan decks at kt Color -- fabulous accent wall colours (relax, there are US stores, but this Aussie website shows the fandecks):

http://www.aaltocolour.com/colour/lecorbusier.asp

http://www.ktcolorusa.com/

Some posters bring up a good point: do you really need the pass-through? While it does bring natural light into the kitchen, could you use that wall space in the kitchen for a couple of nice open shelves, or in the dining room for art work or a nice sideboard (perhaps a quirky refinished vintage pieces, so that all the furniture is not too similar)?

The pass-through is not a very elegant shape; perhaps, if the goal is simply to get light into the kitchen (it is not much use as a pass-through since the doorway is so convenient), you could turn it into an interesting design element, with wall cut-outs. We did it in our own dining room with 3 little squares cut out of the wall about 1 foot down from the ceiling, but check out this much more creative version of wall cut outs:

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/house-tours/inside-out-sarah-and-jims-architecturally-infused-nest-037041

Good luck, and get rid of the beige (and greige, and grey, and dull blue!!!)

posted by mschatelaine on June 12th 2009 at 3:48am
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I like the warmth of the third chip from the top. Also, consider painting the interior of the pass-through a lighter shade of the color you pick to paint the pass-through wall.

posted by dianalily on June 12th 2009 at 8:04am
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I actually don't mind the beige. I think it's the lack of any color in the living room dining room that throws everything off. Before you paint try getting your space accessorized first vases, artwork...etc. Then you can make a choice. You don't want to paint a color that is not going to show off the other items that you already have.

Painting is cheap and not difficult but it is not easy either and it is time consuming to do a good job. Definitely get samples and paint a foam core board 6x6 and hang it up. The size of the color swatch will give you a truer idea of the look after the paint job. The small 1" color swatches really don't help.

I agree with the rest about the pass through. It doesnt look finished. There is no shelf to rest anything on or molding to give it a finish. If you want to keep it think about opening it up more to create a breakfast bar. Maybe opening the wall up and making an open space plan.

posted by Minanina on June 12th 2009 at 8:27am
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adding a vote for a medium grey-blue - one of the bottom three you have taped up would be nice.

posted by degaussing on June 12th 2009 at 8:28am
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Another vote for "white." I like snowy, cool tone whites.

Those red cabinets, walnut floor and white walls. Fanastic.

posted by pollymagoo on June 12th 2009 at 10:12am
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S/B Fantastic. Ugh.

posted by pollymagoo on June 12th 2009 at 10:12am
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the problem with boarding one of these up is that you lose the light. I love my pass through because of the light I get from one room to another.

posted by ec05 on June 12th 2009 at 10:15am
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Wow, thank you everybody for all the thoughtful and constructive comments! I am leaning toward a gray or gray/blue and will likely paint the kitchen walls slate gray also. I want to address the questions and comments about the passthrough, so many of you rightfully noticed was a little awkward and unadorned.

Lisa (from Montreal)-- you are spot on-- the pass through is much higher than standard for two reasons-- the stove in the kitchen has a "backplash" (whatever you call them for stoves) that is 47" high. But more importantly, I am very tall at 6 feet 6 inches (2 meters, I think??). The passthru height was pure indulgance to fit me. :-)

I am building a bar/counter (also higher than standard) for under the passthrough that will accommodate lots of bottles, a rack for stemware, as well as 2 counter seats/stools. The blank wall space to the left of the passthrough will host art of some kind. And a longer term goal is to frame out the passthrough with some trim.

I will of course get back to AT with the after shots. Thanks again!!

Jeff

posted by sixjsix on June 12th 2009 at 11:42am
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ooops... "backsplash" Sheesh. :)

posted by sixjsix on June 12th 2009 at 11:43am
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I have to agree with the majority of above comments too, a really dark slate gray would look choice. Also, with those beautiful floors, I think the gray paint would be a nice accent. And since gray is netural, you won't have to match anything else you put in the room. You could pick up some really cool modern living room furniture in whatever color you wanted. And the gray already matches your dining set.

posted by lsmith* on June 12th 2009 at 4:44pm
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