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Good Questions: Steel Warehouse Kit for a Home?

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Hello, Does anyone know anything about using an industrial steel warehouse as a residential building? As we are considering to build a small vacation home, I have been considering this possibility, but it seems very hard to find any resources on the internet or architects who know something about this. I vaguely remember seeing an article in a home magazine (I think now-defunct House & Garden) in or around 2001 that featured an LA writer and his friend living in a steel warehouse in Southern California — looked like a fantastic way of building a house quickly and cheaply. If anyone remembers this article as well, could you let me know, as there may be some useful information in it. Thanks a lot, Sebastian

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The big issue with prefab steel warehouses is that they were designed to function as warehouses and NOT residences — this means living functions like windows, air flow, plumbing, insulation, etc all have to be customized. This is something that an architect can do, but what you thought would be quick and easy gets complicated quickly.

Who has advice or ideas for Sebastian?

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You would need a professional to customize it, to make sure there's ventilation, etc.

posted by Lisa (Montreal) on July 10th 2009 at 3:05pm
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You could follow the guidelines for shipping container architecture. There's been a lot written about it recently, including DIYs. http://firmitas.org/

posted by annelise on July 10th 2009 at 3:29pm
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I considered this before I built Modern in MN, and I still think it's an interesting approach. A lot like the building houses from shipping containers thing, except without the dimensional constraints. And just like using shipping containers, it's certainly one way to go about getting a building envelope, but you'd still need to do just about everything to it that a "regular" house would require in order to make it into a living space, at which point it becomes not a lot more than an exterior finish.
Granted, that they are structural in and of themselves does count for something, but once you start messing around with getting fenestrations (windows and doors) it's possible that you'd need to supplement the structural elements anyway.
Another way to think about it is if you break down the costs of building a house, the structural components and exterior finish materials (which is basically all a steel structure is) represent a very, very small portion of the overall expense.

I think there are situations where starting with this type of structure could be a cost savings, but that would be the exception. More likely, you'll end up spending more on every component of the building process just because it's such a non-standard approach to residential construction.

posted by splatgirl on July 10th 2009 at 3:33pm
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I was just on the Internet this week looking for similar ideas after a recent Apt Therapy post on a renovated quonset hut. With spray on/in foam insulation available now, the steel building/quonset hut style looks like a very doable, and possibly a greenish option. I am also interested in finding out more about this type of home.

Steel buildings some have used for homes on the left side links

http://www.us-buildings-direct.com/Agriculture.aspx?cmp=18216

Different photos of the renovated quonset hut featured in an Apartment Therapy post.
http://www.lcweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1012&Itemid=252

A Modern Quonset Hut
http://nontraditionalhousing.tribe.net/thread/83839c99-8caf-4ab5-8160-d8
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http://nontraditionalhousing.tribe.net/photos/26b10335-9a55-422b-82aa-b8
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http://tribes.tribe.net/quonsethome links of posts on the hut

Hope this is a start to a great new home.

posted by cheep3r5 on July 10th 2009 at 4:12pm
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As far as doors and windows, the companies that sell these structures customize them all the time so you won't have a problem with that. And businesses regularly have offices, toilet rooms and the like built inside steel structures like these, especially away from urban areas. It's turning the interior into a "home" that they aren't used to....and that banks aren't used to either which means you'll run up against some resistance when it comes to financing.

I think you'll find that you'll have to deal with two construction outfits. One that supplies the prefab steel structure and another that does all of the interior finishing. The more house-like the interior is, the more it's going to cost.

posted by sousa609 on July 10th 2009 at 4:23pm
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I think if you didn't put a lot of extra stuff inside, like walls and such, you could probably save some money. Treat it like an industrial loft.

posted by Zytkiewicz on July 10th 2009 at 4:33pm
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Is there a source for this particular kit above?

posted by art on July 10th 2009 at 4:48pm
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I don't have much technical information, but I do know that it is 100% do able. My boyfriends parents have this exact type of home. They originally lived in a camper inside the steel warehouse, and eventually just started building it into a home. The cement floors are great because they are heated in the winter, and they even have and upstairs with two bedrooms and two areas where a balcony looks over the living room/ kitchen. Their house is beautiful, so definitely keep with this idea, because it's totally possible!
Maybe I'll be able to get some more information from them soon :) Good Luck!

posted by lexixd on July 10th 2009 at 5:13pm
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I live in Oklahoma where these types of homes are getting fairly popular. (We call them "pole barn homes.") My friend built one, and the materials for the outside of the house were incredibly cheap. Because I live in a rural area, there are plenty of builders who can customize and build these types of homes for a very reasonable price.

posted by brandias on July 10th 2009 at 7:42pm
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I know of someone who put a steel pre-fabricated barn on a property as a vacation home in California. Because it is a rural property, they were able to put in this "barn" without permits. They outfitted it with a full bathroom and shower and left the rest of the space pretty raw initially. Little-by-little, they have insulated and done some interior finishing themselves. It is an awesome space and takes advantage of the beautiful landscape where it sits. I know of an architect who is very familiar with this project. Let me know if you would like his name and contact info.

posted by susie b on July 10th 2009 at 9:00pm
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UK shelter mag Living Etc. did a feature on a warehouse kit converted into a residence about four or five years back that might be worth searching out.

posted by evoque on July 11th 2009 at 11:28am
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We didn't use a kit, but my husband and I built a pole barn and lived in it while we remodeled another home we had purchased. I absolutely loved it - we put radiant heat in and a very nice bathroom, but treated it mostly like a loft space, with an industrial feel. If we wouldn't have had kids, we might still be there. . .

posted by Kate N on July 11th 2009 at 2:55pm
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I tried looking into this using a kit for greenhouses (I've seen it done quite sucessfully by an architecture firm in France), but the manufacturers explicitly said they wouldn't talk to me if I was considering for residential (they were worried about thier liabillity, I take it) - word to the wise.

posted by phdesign on July 12th 2009 at 10:45pm
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here are a couple of places to check out:

www.rhinobldg.com and www.ecosteel.com

posted by shofner on July 13th 2009 at 8:45am
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Go to the local authority (usually the town hall, building inspector's office) and ask them about it. Even if they aren't familiar with the specific kits, they will know what needs to be in place for an approved structure, and might have opinions as to cost effectiveness. (Sometime shipping and unloading in woodsy surroundings amps up the price shockingly!)

posted by SherryBinNH on July 13th 2009 at 5:57pm
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I think there is a significantly more attractive alternative. I would look into a "Katrina Cottage." The Katrina Cottages, small classical style cottages, were designed as an alternative to FEMA trailers (cost was the same as FEMA trailer). You can buy the plans for $700 from Lowe's. Also, a lot of the plans are designed to allow you to easily expand.

http://www.katrinacottagehousing.org/
http://www.cusatocottages.com/

Best,
Keith

posted by K Rand on July 14th 2009 at 4:42pm
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Thanks for all the comments, everyone - it'll take me a while to check them all out. It does seem like buying a steel warehouse is affordable but fitting the interior really isn't....
Thanks especially for the person who mentioned Living Etc - this was actually the article I was referring to, but had forgotten it was in this magazine. Incidentally, I did find the web site for the architect who built this house, and even more incidentally, they are just in the middle of selling it. Check it out at www.mxadevelopment.com - at least you'll be able to see what got me started in thinking this might be a great idea!

posted by Sebastian W on July 16th 2009 at 1:03pm
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