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Your concern is right on -- the seam WILL be problematic. You'd be better off getting a murphy bed and enjoying a king (or queen) size mattress every day, while maintaining space in your studio.

You could get a king foam mattress topper for days you have company, if you are willing to make the effort to put it on the bed. I guess it also depends on how close a sleeper you are. If you and any visitors like to sleep entwined, then it would be more problematic.

I highly recommend your idea. I have a pop up trundle in my studio and love it. It's much more comfortable than a pull out sofa or futon, and a lot less expensive then a Murphy.

careful what kind of trundle you get. if the pull out is on wheels (which most of them are for ease in removing from under the bed) then whenever someone rests on the seam, the beds will roll away from one another. sometimes a king size sheet is enough to hold together the whole thing, but you might also fall under.

Frank -
I can't afford a murphy bed, so the alternative is just a queen mattress, which does fit okay in the space, but doesn't give me the elbow room I'd really like.

Fiona -
Yes, I think the question comes down to whether sleeping will be "entwined". Historically I find that while I enjoy entwining while awake, I tend to sleep better with my own space. Maybe I haven't met the right person yet!

Bill -
So I assume you haven't found the seam to be a problem? Have you tried "entwining" (see Fiona's post...)?

sje -
They make clips that secure the two frames together when raised, so separation isn't really a problem.

My father-in-law has a trundle bed in the guest room and it is UNGODLY uncomfortable. At least on his, the two mattresses are never completely even. It's somewhat better if you sleep parallel to the two mattresses rather than perpendicular (as they seem to be designed for). But I'd say get a futon or sleeper sofa instead.

Sara, perhaps the discomfort is mostly due to an uncomfortable mattress, and not the basic concept?

Check this site.
We have one . Very good quality and plenty of storage.http://www.wiederusa.com/

I had a same idea and purchased daybed and pop-up trundle. Yes, the seam was the problem. Then, I purchased "twin doubler" and hold the two mattresses together and put king size mattress pad over. Now, I am happy with it.

a queen-sized futon might be easier and more comfortable.

The seam is not the only problem, as some have said---the beds can move away from one another, and they are also likely to rest at different heights, because the lifting mechanism on the moving bed probably won't work right. At least it didn't on the one I slept on for several months. Never again.

The very short bungee cords will hold the two beds together with very little slippage, but won't help with the long-term comfort issue.

We have a pop-up trundle in our 2nd bedroom. While it's perfect for guests, you should be careful what kind of mattress you get and pay careful attention to the height. We tried to get the most comfortable mattress (a pillowtop) and ordered the same for the pop-up. The pillowtop didn't fit underneath the frame and caused the top of the mattress to rip b/c it snagged on the frame. Long story short, had to return for non-pillowtop mattress and when they're pulled out together...they're not the same height. Just a consideration.

I grew up on a brass daybed with trundle. The bed is squeaky as hell. If you move at all, it will make a fair amount of noise. My trundle worked great. You can only make it with sheets while storing. Maybe a thin blanket.

Remember to swap the mattresses if you plan to do this for a few years. You don't want your mattress to start molding to your form while the other is fresh and springy.

I was in the store "Wieder" on 250 Lafayette str. in Soho and I bout a daybed with pop-up trundle. It's not only frame. It has two orthopedic mattresses and big storage. Trundle work great, very comfortable to sleep and to seat. Trundle completely even in one level with bed. And they have more models like sofabeds, beds and day beds with wide range of durable designer fabric choices and colors. Very good for small apartments. I love my bed.

If you aren't an "entwined while sleeping" person, you might consider a trundle that does not pop up. I have a sleigh bed with a roll-out trundle in my guest room. Both beds are equally comfortable, and the roll-out hides behind a wood skirting when not in use. You do have the feeling of being at a childhood sleepover when both mattresses are in use, but that can be sort of fun.

Oops. Didn't see your p.s.!

In complete agreement with Gerald's[5-25-06]
Wieder SOHO Trundle bed quality endorsement.I
was going to purchase their trundle but instead
bought one of their truly amazing sofa beds....
ONE TOUCH...TWO SECONDS!!and it morphs from
comfortable contemporary sofa to the most
orthopedic supportive bed I have ever
experienced..AND IT HAS MUCH NEEDED STORAGE
COMPARTMENT FOR ALL MY JUNK...NOT AN INCH OF
SPACE WASTED. I have had my sofabed for a
MONTH AND HAVE NEVER SLEPT BETTER IN MY LIFE
or been more pleased with a purchase EVER!!!
AND IT CLOSES IN TWO SECONDS as I'M RUNNING
OUT THE DOOR so MY APT LOOKS CONSIDERABLY
NEATER ALL THE TIME!!!

Mic/Gerald/John A. - Have you considered a career in comedy?

Hi - I'm having a problem with the above website mention for Wieder in Soho. Does anyone know if they've relocated?

Thanks.

Terri 5-31-06
8-1-06 FYI Wieder website is
www.wiedersoho.com
Hope this is of help.
KG

I am having a difficult time looking for pop-up trundle beds that extend to a full or queen size.
Any suggestions where to look ?
Thanks to everyone who responds.

Does anyone have experience with trundle beds from Sleepy's? They have a big catelog, but can't see the actual beds before ordering, so not sure about the quality. Also, does anyone have experience getting a Temperpedic mattress for the trundal? It would fit on the top, but not sure it'd fit on the bottom bed, since the temperpedics are thick mattresses (may get damaged from the springs).

Can the beds be level, side by side, or is there always a slight gap in height? If the latter, can the height difference be remedied?

Ellen

I have been looking for the same and this is what I have found http://www.humbleabode.com/Extend-A-Bed-Trundle-Safety-Strap?category=2036 and also this http://www.humbleabode.com/Duralink-Twin-High-Rise-Trundle-Frames?category=2036. I have slept on twin beds put together to a king at rental villas and found them just fine for a week or two.

I have just purchased a duralink twin trundle, with Sealy mattresses exactly the same size, made especially for trundle beds. Excellent comfort and ease of use. But expensive. The total for the two frames (one pop-up) and two mattresses, USD $1200. I am sure you would be able to tie the two frames together.

Where would I find this duralink twin trundle? Thanks.

FYI - the wiedersoho.com website is not about trundle beds. Is there another address? Or a street address in Soho? Thanks.

I found this site for Weider ... I think it's the same:

http://www.wiederusa.com/

The Weider website is now www.weiderfurniture.com . There is a toll free number listed on the site. It goes to a children's school in Indiana.

I called the Brooklyn location and a woman answered who said she didn't speak English, only Hebrew and Russian, would I call back Wednesday? It's Saturday now.

I called the Queens location and the number was disconnected.

I actually love these designs and am trying to buy one! If only I could get prices - the website shows no prices. The shopping cart functionality is there, but there is no way to choose a product to buy or to know how much it will all cost.

It's amazing how some people stay in business.