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Hello AT,
I just signed a 1yr lease for a new apartment. Prior to signing, I asked the management company whether there had been any roach, mice, or bedbug infestations. I was most particularly concerned about bedbugs. Management said no, and I believed them. However, after signing the lease, I returned to the apartment to take some measurements and met some of the prior tenants...
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They said that one of the four roommates did indeed have bedbugs and that the management company sent an exterminator three times!
I am very angry at the management company and feel foolish for taking their word. I am going to insist that they exterminate the apartment again before I move in but dont know what they will say.
Is there anything else I can do at this point?
Thanks, Anne
Dear Anne,
That sucks. We can also understand why the management company lied (because you wouldn't have taken the apartment), and that means you really can't count on anyone to tell the truth about this subject. You have to get the information in other ways if you can if you really care about these issues.
As for what you can do, we don't think you can really do anything to the management company aside from move out, but you should be able to make them do everything necessary to take care of the problem or you could make a big stink in the building.
Our friend who had the bedbugs is fine for the time being now:
Bedbugs Take Manhattan #6
and we are awaiting her next inspection to see if anything came back. We are not sure whether or not bedbugs are hard or easy to get out of a building once you do all the things you need to do. It looks to us that you may be in the clear if they've already exterminated a few times.
That said, we would request a professional inspection paid for by the management to set your mind at ease.
Anyone else??
Should have gotten it in writing.
view paul's profile
In the future, maye ew tenants should write in something about bedbugs, roaches and other infestations and have management sign and/or initial that they certify that this problem has been either addressed or is taken care of with a monthly exterminator. I don't think they can certify that there are no bedbugs or roaches, I'm not sure if that's what you're asking for. Good luck.
view VickyA's profile
This really needs to be the kind of government mandated thing that the whole lead paint thing is. And the window guard thing. In fact, they should probably make one new form that includes them all on it somehow.
view Curtis's profile
I don't really understand. If the problem has been fully taken care of, then how is the management being bad? Maybe asking if they've ever had an infestation is not a fair question?
Or is the problem that once you have an infestation, there's a higher probability that the bugs will come back? If that's the case, then I can see why one would want some reassurances that there has never been an infestation. But otherwise? Or is it that you want to be sure chemicals haven't been used in the place? Please explain.
view Sea's profile
Well, I'm not an attorney in New York, and I'm not giving you "legal advice"... but it appears the landlord mislead you as to a material aspect* of your lease. As such, you may have a cause of action against them-obviously requiring you to hire a NY attorney or perhaps contacting your local Attorney General to see if they have violated any consumer protection laws.
At the very least, you most likely have a counter-claim if your landlord chose to sue you if you, say, moved out without paying rent. Again, though, you should talk to a licensed practitioner of the law in New York, and that could get expensive.
* In my opinion, the presence (and RECURRENCE) of bed bugs are clearly a material defect in the apartment which should be disclosed. The landlord's denial of their presence itself indicates that this is a material problem.
view koos's profile
Check the discussion forum at tenant.net. I'm pretty sure landlords are required to pay for exterminators under the warranty of habitability, so an inspection seems like a good idea.
view ThriftyL's profile
koos, Anne has not said that there are any bedbugs present. So there's no evidence that they have failed to disclose a material defect. Maybe the previous tenants could have told her if there were any bedbugs left after the round of extermination, and she could have included that info in her question.
view Sea's profile
Sea, as far as bedbugs go, they're almost impossible to get rid of. So if they were acting in good faith they should have said there was a recent infestation but that it was under control, or whatever the status was. Because there's a very good chance--especially if the whole building is infested--that the bbs will return. And people should be able to make an informed decision based on all the information. In my mind that's definitely a failure to disclose, because bedbugs aren't like leaks or plumbing problems (easily fixable); the way we and the law think about these suckers really has to change.
view ValerieNYC's profile
Thanks, Valerie. I guess it didn't seem like a large infestation from the description, since only one of four roommates had had the bedbugs. But it's good to know these are such wily creatures, even after several rounds of extermination. I wasn't sure it was so.... -- maybe because of wishful thinking? :)
view Sea's profile
Have you approached the management company to get out of your lease? If you can do it in email, that'd be better (record of the conversation). However, just because something was oral and not in writing does not mean they get off. You detrimentally relied upon an assurance of theirs, and you have cause now to break the contract.
view Lawdesigner's profile
I think previous comments make sense. If Anne hasnt taken possession of the apartment why doesnt she try to back out? It shouldnt unduly put the company out and she should get the deposit back. She can tell them they lied and an infestation goes against the warraty of habitability.
view Trumystique's profile
I also think previous comments make sense.
If a professional inspection would assure you enough to move in, approach management and take that route.
If you plan to back out of moving in, definitely verify the local laws first.
view Clairepetrol's profile
And for the future... next time, don't ask if the management company has ever called out an exterminator. Ask who they use and what happened on the last couple visits. You're much more likely to get a truthful answer with an open-ended question.
(And you don't want to hear that they've never used anyone. Cities have vermin. Good management has a program for keeping vermin out of your apartment.)
view wende in phoenix's profile