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Finalist #3: David & Im's OneSpace

This is the third of the finalists. Another fantasy rental, this time from the Wild West. Super video with soundtrack.

Name: David and Im
Location: Downtown San Diego, California
Size: 426 Sq/ft Loft (rental)
Original Entry: Click Here

1. Who was your favorite entry and why? (other than your own apt.)

"Ivar's Simple & Pared Down: To live as both the craftsman and curator of your own space, to distill your home to the necessary tools for living (intimacy, memory, and grace); these are reasons we think Ivar's home is unforgettable."

2. Why you should be the champ?

"We believe in the restraints of a good challenge. We believe that the smallest detail can sculpt the overall shape of a space. We work through dialogue and drawing- the careful orchestration of details before the object is actually built. With every experiment, we expect success but embrace failure. We also work through discovery, allowing the organic process of 'making' to lead us to new directions. Our home is never finished; we are continually tuning our methods of living."

Comments (74)

Pretty funny video, with appropriate music!

posted by Joan on 2006-04-11 10:57:59

I love the additional photos. Your home is absolutlely stunning!!

posted by Kathryn on 2006-04-11 11:01:12

I think this is one of the spaces that was most creative in the overall use of the space. Personally I would find it difficult to live in such a "vertical" space. That may be because I am under five foot tall.

posted by Norma on 2006-04-11 11:01:32

I think what I like best about this one is the stainless steel panels behind the open shelving in the kitchen. By creating a 'framed' space of sorts, it grounds the many things on the shelves as being contained, even though they're open to the space. They don't float in an open wall. DOes that make sense?

The restraint comment reminded me of matthew barney and bjork. ;)

posted by rachel (in denver) on 2006-04-11 11:17:52

whoa. This place is awesome. Again, I didn't really get it the first time around. The extra pictures really show how ingenious this place it. I agree with Norma that this has one of the most creative use of space. And you thought of so many ways to make it company friendly which is difficult to do in a really small space. I really liked how the video showed that the couch can turn into dining room seating.

posted by rr on 2006-04-11 11:23:08

One of my personal Top 3 picks, and quite possibly my #1 after seeing the new pics. I love how David and Im are able to live with so much stuff while maintaining a serene and ordered space. The curtain wall, the private outdoor area, the ability to entertain several people, and the spartan peacefulness of the bedroom loft are the highlights for me. Bonus points for ingenious use of vertical space to maximize storage.

posted by Enrique on 2006-04-11 11:28:08

What a difference. The only thing I didn't like about this place on the first go around was how dark it felt. Boy, was I wrong. This is going to be an impossible choice. Love this space.

posted by avocado on 2006-04-11 11:51:59

I like the drama of this more as a nighttime space from the original pics, but still am in awe of the necessary discipline to keep this looking interesting and serene, and not a high-end Home Depot, which it could in lesser hands!!

So jealous of the terrrace (which, um, sort of adds living area not included in your square footage, but I guess we'll look the other way...!)

Such a highly personal space, though, so it will be interesting to see how it does in the final judging.

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2006-04-11 11:56:48

Beautiful space, but all of that open storage can be dangerous in earthquake country. I'm picturing people being conked by books, pots & pans, chairs...

posted by Li on 2006-04-11 12:17:06

Wow, what a theatrical place. Where's the flying trapeze? Were the anti-gravitational chairs ever explained? Do the owners levitate after midnight, or are they just Californians?

This one really complicates things. Glad I'm not a judge.

posted by Henrietta on 2006-04-11 12:20:14

This was great. The video really enabled me to see how the space is lived in which is priceless. The curtained area became so much more dramatic as a result. This is defnitely a contender for the top spot. And it's a rental. I feel like this couple did so much more with their space than Lucy's Love Shack. Love it.

posted by Gregg on 2006-04-11 12:29:21

this felt *magical*.... HUGE, tiny, WARM, cool, HIGH, low....what a great story..

posted by miss on 2006-04-11 12:43:29

I can't imagine this not winning. These guys are going to have a line of people who will want to grab that space as-is if they ever move out. And to think, they did that with a rental.

I'm just so blown away.

LOVE the video!

posted by Rob on 2006-04-11 12:48:56

This is not my favorite precisely because it is "curated." It's a bit too much, too pretentious. But the small-space solutions are very good.

posted by Terry on 2006-04-11 12:50:15

Exactly what Gregg said x 2.

I love it.

posted by Desk on 2006-04-11 12:54:35

Did these homeowners(renters) put the seeping loft in, or was it there already?

Still not sure how they access the "library", exactly, so for me there remain some issues of practicality.

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2006-04-11 13:04:33

Storage wise I think it's an amazing use of space. Aesthetically, I don't find it appealing. I agree with whomever said it could look like Home Depot. Seeing all those things on the walls would drive me crazy. That's my opinion though.

posted by Alan on 2006-04-11 13:18:44

Wow. I could never pull this off, nor could I ever live like this, but Wow.

posted by JenDC on 2006-04-11 13:27:24

This one is so fascinating to look at...

...but it's definitely a home for people who don't get klutzy when they're tired.

posted by wende in san francisco on 2006-04-11 13:33:51

Oy.. seeping = sleeping

posted by patrick (the other one) on 2006-04-11 13:57:38

This one is really beautiful but I'd be terrified to live there. In the case of an earthquake, I can't even begin to imagine all of the things that would fall on me. The kitchen supplies would end up mostly broken.

posted by lindenen on 2006-04-11 13:58:37

Norma's comments made me realize why I love this space--I'm 6' and my boyfriend is 6'2". We live in a charming but lilliputian 1920s era apartment building, where the sinks and kitchen counters are practically at our knees. I would love to live in David and Im's vertical space. Regarding the visible storage, I find that I am more likely to keep things organized when I can see them--clutter-wise, my closet is always the first to go. David and Im's home seems to be set up to match their tastes and lifestyles perfectly--it is not some generic, interchangable space, but their personal machine for living. I wish this loft was published in a book, with DIY details!

posted by Molly on 2006-04-11 14:00:01

Winner.

posted by Peter Reis on 2006-04-11 14:27:42

And I am also really enjoying all of the finalists comments regarding their favorite entries. I know it has been done before, but somehow seems particularly thoughtful this time.

posted by JenDC on 2006-04-11 14:34:47

Beautiful space.

One question I have is if, with regular kitchen tools (pots, pans, etc) so high up on the wall, you basically have to keep a ladder handy 24/7 or if there is some way of accessing that stuff that's not immediately apparent from the photos. I have a loft and I have to say I think it would be a real pain to have to get my ladder out every time I wanted to get a frying pan. Tough to tell from the pictures though ... perhaps it's all accessible from a normal footstool.

posted by drumwell on 2006-04-11 14:44:54

ah! i just watched the video. not nearly as tall as it looks from the most recent photos. nice one!

posted by drumwell on 2006-04-11 14:49:06

Love this space. This'll be fabulous on SSBS. In the video, they are picking books off the shelf just by reaching up, so they're not as high up as they might look. I think the mix-and-match uses of the space, as seen in the video, are so cool.

These are clever and innovative people.

posted by Pixie on 2006-04-11 15:10:30

Okay, I have a question - where do they perch their cameras? That's why it's making the space feel so high...

posted by susan on 2006-04-11 15:15:04

agree. it comes off as a bit pretentious, especially the video that mostly tells me they like to listen to Calexico.

then again, i find DWELL magazine to be pretentious in the same way - that tell-tale early 30s, hispter aesthetic (which I think is going to be SO DATED in 10 years. Just watch). Some good ideas, for sure, but the overall vibe gets a tad annoying and a little too proud of itself after while.

Just my opinion - not to hate on David and Im. They are great organizers.

posted by vikki on 2006-04-11 15:17:15

i think just moved up to my favorite all around, it's fantastic! truly innovative, creative, and beautiful use of a small space. the additional photos and video (which is fantastic) just make me say, "wow...."

and the terrace! i can't wait to see what you do with that space. truly beautiful, congratulations!

posted by christina on 2006-04-11 15:32:27

This is a beautiful space.

And you both look pretty cute too. : )

posted by CC on 2006-04-11 15:36:06

I know everybody likes this place (so PLEASE don’t everyone attack me) but the more I look at this place the less I think PACKRAT and the more I think DEATHTRAP. To save your lives during a major earthquake you might consider engaging in some non-structural mitigation now. During an earthquake most buildings don't collapse yet people are injured and killed by the "stuff that flies around." When I look at your place I see a lot of stuff that's going to be flying around when San Diego experiences a magnitude 7+ earthquake. If you want to "live on the edge" and don't care about earthquake safety, that's fine. You're both adults. Live on the edge. :) I just don't think a website devoted to good design and whose mission statement is, "Helping people to make their apartments better places to live" should give an award to people who promote a reckless design scheme at the expense of safety.

In your original post you said, "We've had plans to take down the shelves, kerf the front top edge and inlay a rubber strip. This should help things from vibrating off the shelf." I don’t believe that will help much. (Though I’ll ask at the next emergency preparedness meeting we have at work.) I’m pretty convinced, during a major earthquake, those $9 green totes from Target, and everything else up there, is going to come flying at you, FROM ABOVE (!), like missiles.

I suspect you’ll still win the big prize because most of the people on this site don't live in Southern California and haven't experienced an earthquake like the NORTHRIDGE earthquake. If your place was situated anywhere else but Southern California I wouldn't have an issue with your winning. All I can suggest is that you, and everyone else, remember: GOOD DESIGN doesn't create Safety Hazards.

I apologize if I appear militant or harsh. I’m not hatin’ here. That's not my intent. You have a great view :) and I understand why you want to live in this small space.

In Los Angeles,

posted by TONY G. on 2006-04-11 15:40:24

Beautiful space. It was great to see the additional photos and the movie. I notice that I'm not the only one who removes the labels from bathroom products when possible.

posted by Mike Gerhardt on 2006-04-11 15:53:46

Tony said it a lot better than I did.

posted by Li on 2006-04-11 16:09:36

hi all: thank you for looking and commenting on our home. we are very interested in the reactions and criticisms. i will try to address all questions...

wende: you are correct! but i assure you that any trace of intoxication quickly vanishes when we are going up the ladder after a good night out.

patrick: the library is at arm's reach (see video). a bit more effort for me than david (who is 6'3"), but it isn't an obstacle. the sleeping loft is part of the existing architecture but had no access. we built the ship ladder with neoprene rubber-lined steps to climb to bed every night.

drumwell: our kitchen items that are always being used are well within my reach, and i am 10" under david. shelves 1-6 are very accessible to me... anything above that involves either david's 8-foot reach or a stool. we only access shelves 7-9 every now and then, say, when we are having a dinner party or need our dutch oven.

susan: for the video, we positioned our camera pretty much at ceiling height using a ladder, an extendable dust/curtain/pole thing, and a bit of gaffer’s tape.

vikki: we are very much aware, whether we like it or not, that our work is perceived as having a "hipster" aesthetic. given different circumstances (more money, more space, more time, and more experience), we believe our approach would have given way to a much different product. this is home #1 for us, and we look forward to the next, and the next, and so on and so forth. it speaks of our current priorities as a partnership, which we hope will shift and develop over time.

tony: no offense taken... it is certainly true that people are injured or killed from falling objects, but the majority of these objects are furniture-sized and not a few dishes or books (however, that copy of S, M, L, XL...) we went to great efforts to secure the wall of storage such that it is only coming down with the building! keep in mind that from a seismic stand point, san diego is in a whole other realm than sf and la. in an earthquake we may lose some glassware, but that was a conscious trade off we were willing make. we definitely do not think we have designed a seismic death trap for ourselves.

posted by im + david on 2006-04-11 17:29:01

This is just amazing, & I love it:)
The thing that gets me is why would these ppl. need a DWR gift certificate?!
Has anyone considered the irony in this or is it just me?
I think the gift certificate should go to the saddest sack, most ill conceived entry in the contest;)

posted by Duncan on 2006-04-11 18:16:47

Duncan, I'm not sure top prize should go to the saddest sack but I definitely agree that there should be a "laterne rouge" award for this contest. Although, then I would have submitted my current digs in LA (can't wait to get back to my real home in Boston). ;)

posted by drumwell on 2006-04-11 18:29:17

I thing you did a fantastic job making the most of the verticalness of the space. I am especially enamored with the staircase to the sleeping loft and am very interested in sourcing how you did it. Did it come with the space? Looks like you used similar materials for the table, so perhaps you made it too? I would love to do the same in my tiny (350sf) New York, LES, apartment. Could I hire you to make one for me? Or could you recommend someone in NY could make it? BTW, can anyone recommend a creative carpenter in NY?

posted by Lisa on 2006-04-12 14:29:17

The extra pictures look good but I love the video...it's fun to see how you two move around and function in your onespace.

posted by hoser on 2006-04-12 17:24:48

Too much grey metal and brown wood. I would love to see some NON primary colors in this space for some life that doesn't resemble a warehouse. Also, the bedroom is like being stuck in a hospital. Way too clinical and cold here...
kinda a cool space if it had some warmth!

posted by tauriegh on 2006-04-12 17:43:29

Kudos Im & David, this is outstanding. Very small, very functional, very inventive and unique. Hipster aesthetic? Nah. Just modern cool. Love the terrace too. This is the winner.

posted by Pedro on 2006-04-12 22:56:43

Ah. The judges will have their work cut out for them. I hope they can actually get together and debate the contestants, really struggle it out, preferably face to face!

The airy bedroom here was such a surprise in the slideshow!

posted by Lucy Gazelle on 2006-04-13 03:06:28

This space is ingenious and unique. The one, single thing that makes this all work so beautifully is that gorgeous, elegant wall of white drapes framed by the black beams. The rest of the apartment is wonderful too, but the drapes are what make it so beautiful, IMHO.

Congrats on a wonderfully executed design that looks cool, yet cosy and livable at the same time!

Jo

posted by Jo on 2006-04-13 06:45:55

My earlier posting on this finalist disappeared, so pardon me while I repeat. This place in the only one (so far) where I agree with the judges 100 percent: you definitely deserve to be finalists. Your slideshow reveals (more than your entry photos)just how tiny your apartment is, and how you have made use of every inch of it in innovative ways. I suppose the glass walls, high ceiling, and the terrace help you feel as if you have more room. It's still a squeeze.

The stairs to your sleeping loft do look like an accident waiting to happen, but then I am of an age where I have to get up in the middle of the night...don't ask. And I would want art or fabric on the walls around the bed. If I woke up in that all-white, low-ceiling loft I might think I was in a coffin. But that's all personal taste. I think this is a winner.

Where are you going to put anything new if you win?

posted by Pat on 2006-04-13 16:28:42

This is an elegant, dramatic execution... like the Eames' Case Study House, it is both a place of calm rest and a well-built container for the couple's artifacts. This is truly an integrated space- living, working, and playing in one space. I love that they rely on their artifacts/objects to add texture and color to the space, which leads me to believe that they are very honest about what they own.

This is a winner, not only for efficiency and aesthetic, but for the good life it celebrates- a life in which neither work nor play can exist without the other.

posted by Associate Professor Pisprapai Sarasalin on 2006-04-13 22:48:51

we always have room for improvement; the results of a DWR gift certificate would not be difficult to integrate. the prouve potence lamp could be given a very special place in our home...

the stair was modeled after a ship ladder, which is more like a specialized stair than a ladder. it is really not as scary as it looks! the key to its use in treating it like a stair: when ascending you face towards it, but in descending you face away. the ergonomics of the alternating treads make it quite simple to get used to. if anyone is interested in one for their space they can be purchased from industrial suppliers (places that sell prefab mezzanines and such). i believe there was a space in dwell this month, or last, that featured an aluminum prefab ship ladder.

we tried to use a prefab ladder, but the space we were trying to fit it in was just too tight. a handrail was part of the original design but in the end it wasn't really needed, and we ended up with strategically-placed handles (two sailboat deck cleats in our case). if anyone wants help with theirs we would gladly send our drawings.


we tried to use a prefab ladder but the space we were trying to fit it in was just too tight. a hand rail was part of the original design but in the end it wasn't really needed, just some strategically placed handles (a sailboat deck cleat in our case). if anyone wants help with theirs we would gladly send our drawings.

posted by david + im on 2006-04-14 14:36:39

I didn't watch the video, because
A. It would take forever to download on dial-up
B. Not everyone had a video, and it felt unfair that some folks have videos and some don't.

I don't know if the judges reread the original posts for each entry or just work with the posts in the finalist category. So I'll say quickly again what my view is...

I like it and don't like it for the same reason. The vertical storage. Gotta put your stuff somewhere. There's only one wall to build on. Amazing that two lifetimes of stuff could be combined to fit in one wall in a smaller apartment than either had previously.

But, yes, it looks retailish. Crate and Barrel glassware display, clothing like the nearest clothing store and storage (ala Hold Everything or uh, what was that other container store called?).

I don't know if looking like a retail store is good or bad. Retail stores have to take advantage of every inch to display their wares. David and Im have to take advantage of every inch to store their stuff.

Contest page:
Readers and judges are asked to evaluate each submission for excellence in these three areas:

Efficiency
Innovative use of small space to maximize livability

Aesthetics
Beauty and stylistic achievement in Decor

Special Challenges
Creative problem solving in dealing with adverse conditions
======

So, it totally fulfills the Efficiency area. Probably the BEST use of space.

Innovative? Sorta...there IS ONLY ONE WALL to build up on...the solid one. IKEA says the same things, to go cubic, go to the ceiling. They did create their own shelving, but industrial stuff would have worked too.

Special challenges...yeah, there were a lot...like cramming in the stuff, and then hiding it. LOL!

But is it aesthetically pleasing? Is it beautiful? That's where I have my problem (MY problem). It looks like a retail space and I don't consider a retail space to be "homey".

It can be a beautiful retail space...but not be a beautiful home. I obviously need to see more "homes" done in a "retail" style to appreciate them.

And the curtain does indeed hide the warehousing wall, but then looks like a stage curtain. I'm SOOOO confused on this one.

posted by Andree on 2006-04-15 20:11:07

If you live in Nebraska do you not put a roof on your house because you are in toronado country and a toronado might rip off your roof? Or if you live in an area that floods, for example by the Mississppi river do you build your home on 30 foot stilts hoping your home never floods. ( I could go on and on with examples) Being born and raised in California I am confused over the obssession others have with the earthquake thing. Yes non-californians, earthquakes happen. Not every day or even every year though! So in my own personal space should I not use book shelves or hang frames or lights or store stuff where if there is an earthquake it might fall? If there were to be an earthquake little cuppords with doors wouldn't keep the silverware in, in a big one the doors would fly open and everything would fly out. Also in the state of CA you learn to not just stand there and let potentially flying objects hit you in the head. In case of an earthquake you put yourself into a space where you won't get hit with flying objects. David and Im seem like pretty smart people. So in the event of an earthquake I believe they would not go stand next to their curtain and wait for their storage bins to hit them on the head. I am pretty sure they would not go stand under their storage of plateware either. They might do what Californians are taught from a young age to do in case of an earthquake. This apartment is by no means a seismic death trap. The obssession over the earthquake thing should stop. Focus on the design of the space, not the "what if there is an earthquake" thing.

posted by julie on 2006-04-16 04:00:22

I disagree with Andree about the "retail space" look. One of the reasons I like this space is that it's one of the few urban-hip entrants that DOES NOT look like a store or hair salon. There were so many cold, too-chic, trying-too-hard places...

I couldn't live here at my age (ladders, mostly), but I probably could have when I was young. It shows something of the way its occupants live (unlike those other places I mentioned), and it IS innovative. The "stage" curtain effect adds drama. I think it must soften their very angular place at night, too (and fabric helps with noise control in a space with so many hard surfaces). If you criticize this for having only one wall to build on, you are criticizing the architecture, not the designs of the occupants.

I don't use design-speak. As a Supreme Court justice once said about porn, I know it (good design) when I see it. This is the clear winner on all points.

I've just purchased all kinds of sharp-looking containers for my closets because I'm so inspired by all these organized people. And the bags for charity are increasing daily.

posted by Pat on 2006-04-17 13:41:46

...and I want to outfit that terrace. A few beautiful containers planted with succulents. Aluminum and teak chaises. Perhaps one of those triangular fabric shades. One perfect sculpture...

posted by Pat on 2006-04-17 13:46:39

I'm moving into a loft in a couple weeks and just find this inspiring!!! At first I was worried a loft would be storage challenged, but you've done great things to have a place for all your stuff and it's beautifully uncluttered.

Amazing work! You're already the winner in my book.

posted by warrenpeace on 2006-04-17 21:08:47

andree: aesthetics is such a difficult topic! and the entire topic of what "home" means to people can be argued for what seems like an eternity... and we certainly do not expect anyone but us to live in our space because it is so tuned to our personal needs and desires... but i hope we've achieved something greater than pure efficiency and organization. we truly believe in the intrinsic beauty of the objects of our life- whether they be our kitchen knives, books, ceramics from gardening stores in our travels, or tools from david's grandfather's garage- and use the inherent beauty of these things give our home texture and depth. we made a conscious decision to store our objects visibly, to live in a transparent space, and as a by-product of this decision we have become very organized people as well. i don’t think we’d ever be able to deal with an off-site storage unit or a garage filled with boxes of stuff- we are always looking to our artifacts for inspiration, and they are a part of our everyday dialogue.

pat: we do have a few beautiful stainless steel bowls (on our terrace) with succulents from our wedding, but no sculpture… we are always keeping our eye out for an outdoor chaise to replace our ikea ones (which are great and such a steal), but i’m afraid every last dollar we save is going towards grad school or a trip to bhutan. we’re very happy you find our home inspiring…

thank you all again for your comments!

posted by im + david on 2006-04-17 23:53:16

Great use of the space; very light and airy appearance. Creative display of books-what a fun place for a young couple to live! The views outside the loft windows beckon the apartment dwellers to "come out and play" in America"s finest city. Artsy,yet"easy to work in" kitchen-- Well done, David and Im!

posted by Lori & Karl Bloomfield on 2006-04-19 13:50:25

I agree with Tony. Further,this place just seems cluttered, despite the hyperbole about "curating."

I'm disappointed that this entry won.

posted by Terry on 2006-04-21 13:29:55

Hooray for San Diego! Congrats to Im and David! Are you in Little Italy perchance? I knew my little conservative navy town was hiding some inspired design-- and to think I was afraid to come back to my hometown...

posted by Shanna on 2006-04-22 15:27:41

I really don't love this entry.
Honestly, it may be the pictures, but I feel as though the owners of this home are simply living with their clutter stacked up or hidden behind a sheet. Clutter shouldn't be hidden or treated as art, and "organized" clutter definently does not define a good use of space. I could not bear to live with four chairs hanging from the ceiling. The overall vertical use of space is not exactly efficient for the average human either. Especially those with children.

posted by Josh on 2006-04-23 08:26:53

A few of you might want to review the meaning of the word "clutter"

Main Entry: clut·ter
Intransitive Senses, Chiefly Dialect : to run in disorder
Transitive Senses : to fill or cover with scattered or disordered things that impede movement or reduce effectiveness

Clearly, this space does not fit that definition.

posted by david on 2006-04-28 13:15:34

David and Im, thought you'd be interested in reading an article that mentions you in it!

http://tinyurl.com/nua3o

I sent it to Maxwell a few days ago to have him forward on to you, hopefully you found it, or come back here to read it.

posted by Andree on 2006-05-14 21:58:09

thanks so much andree!

posted by im + david on 2006-05-15 12:07:24

I do love this space....

posted by Walter "Kimora Lee" White on 2006-06-08 15:19:44

I know I'm commenting late, but I noticed the white curtains in here, and I'm wondering... where are they from? and where did you get the ceiling track or whatever other method used to hang them from?

Or if anyone else has some sources?

posted by Mela on 2006-06-23 10:23:03

Mela...

The curtains we actually had custom made in Bangkok. Just because we were going to be there and the labor is so inexpensive. Our original plan was to use sail cloth and have it sewn at a local sail boat shop. But we decided to use a low tech fabric instead and save money. I think we were better off in the end with the cotton blend rather than a lightweight nylon because it hangs a bit heavier and doesn't go crazy with a slight breeze.

The track is hospital cubicle curtain track, http://www.inprocorp.com/Files/cubicle_tracks.html, we went with the "econo cube". We got a separate track for each curtain. Works great for the price.

We are happy to share anything we can, so let us know if we can help further!

posted by david + im on 2006-07-08 14:47:14

Hello David & Im,
I'm quite inspired by your magnificent kitchen / cook space and have a few questions about your shelves. * what is the material used and the thickness? how are they affixed to the walls? * did you use the same 14 gauge ss for the panels? and how are the panels affixed to the walls. *what are the screws along the front edges of the shelves (close up detail in pic 08) * what material are the black trays on shelf 2 *And are the wire pull out undercounter drawers stock or custom items?
Thanx so much and congrats!
Best,
Trudy

posted by Trudy on 2006-07-23 03:39:49

Hi Trudy,
The kitchen shelves are 5/8" MDF. Though keep in mind that in our situation we considered the shelves a sacrificial component and chose a material that would (hopefully!) last just long enough for the duration of our stay in this rental. Though we have actually been quite surprised at how well they have done. If you were looking for a more long term solution you could wax the MDF (annually perhaps) to help resist moisture and stains (we prefer Trewax) or look into a more durable, seal-able wood. Check out this link for a image of our attachment detail ( http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9294/onespaceshelfdetaildj1.jpg )..You’ll need the picture and our fragmented explanation below.

We did use 14ga SS for the panels, mainly because that was what we had (it was drop from a job). But again the thickness ensures a degree of durability that will make it useful for future projects. If you look at the detail above you'll see that a critical but fairly hidden component is the 1/16" thick alum. angle. That was the first piece to go up, it was carefully located, leveled and then "tacked" in place with a few countersunk screws. Next the 6"x10' panels of SS were hung by screwing through the bottom leg of the alum. angle and into the wall. We were fortunate enough to have the our kitchen along a shear wall so there was plywood behind the drywall, normally you'd want to make sure you screwed into the studs. We were able to prepunch the holes in the stainless; if you need to drill them I would recommend investing in a small drill press and the most expensive drill bits you can afford.

The alum. angle also serves to support the back edge of the MDF shelf, we screwed through the angle and into the MDF from below. Make sure you start with the top shelf and work your way down. Also check the flatness of your wall ahead of time, our wall dipped back in a few places and the aluminum angle will conform to the imperfections in the wall but the MDF shelf obviously cannot. There were a few places where the gap between the wall and the shelf was wide enough to where the screws were barely biting into the MDF.

The front edges of the shelves are supported with cables that tie back to the screws which hold the SS panels to the wall. The hardware you see at the bottom front edge in picture 08 is actually threaded aluminum standoffs that we drilled holes through (transversely at the middle). 1/16" SS Cable goes through these holes and set screws are threaded in from each and pinch the cable to secure it. The cable loops from one set screw up through a hole drilled into the shelf, back to the wall, threads through a link that was removed from a sash chain (which was placed when the SS panels were screwed to the wall) across the back to another sash chain link and returns to the front of the shelf again where it is secured with another standoff/setscrew. We cut the cables and protected the protruding tail with some heat shrink tubing. Only cut your cables short after you have loaded the shelves and let things settle a bit. We made a few adjustments in the weeks following the install.

Hope that helps! We'll give you the lowdown on the trays and wire baskets a bit later...should get back to work now!

BTW our DWR booty just showed up so we will be sure to send a picture once it settles into place!

posted by david + im on 2006-07-26 18:18:59

Hello David & Im,
thanx for taking time to send such a thorough response! The link was *very* helpful and I viewed yr slideshow again on a larger monitor and could see more details of the 1/16" angle & cable. look forward to hearing the update on your dwr winnings...
Best,
Trudy

posted by Trudy on 2006-07-28 22:49:45

David + Im,

Congradulations on winning, yours was my favorite! The steel table is ingenious. But where did you buy that amazing couch?

posted by minerva on 2006-08-13 13:39:21

The couch is actually a LAZYBOY! if you can believe it. Apparently they hired Todd Oldham to design some furniture for them. Its called "Snap" and with this fabric was just under $1000, not bad. The only downside for our situation was that we liked it in a more stripped down state with the minimal back and side cushions...which means you then have to store those cushions somewhere! It also comes with an extra low cushion, so you can mix and match or do an all low back version.

Also, finally getting back to Trudy's question the trays on the shelf are galvanized boxes from the container store that we spot welded together. And the under counter drawers are from ikea. we made our own glides by attaching aluminum channel to the 2x12 legs of the counter and also added narrow strips of UHMW tape to reduce the sliding friction.

(BTW the last airing of our Small Space Big Style episode is on HGTV tonight at 7pm)

posted by david + im on 2006-08-17 19:30:51

Hi David and Im,
I'm interested in learning more about your apartment for possible publication in a magazine. Could you please email me off the board at jdixon999@yahoo.com?
Thanks,
Jennifer

posted by Jennifer on 2006-08-28 11:51:03

Hello David & Im,

i'd love to know more about the Eames chair. Is it vintage or is it a re-issue?

Thanks
Matthias

posted by Matthias on 2006-11-21 10:31:26

Hello David & Im,

i'd love to know more about the white Eames chair. Is it vintage or is it a re-issue?

Thanks
Matthias

posted by Matthias on 2006-11-21 10:31:54

Hello,
I'm working as journalist in Belgium and I would like to feature some pictures of your wonderful and smart apartment, in a special "small spaces" issue. How can I contact you?
Cécile Bouchat

posted by Cécile on 2006-11-24 09:54:03

Matthias,
The chair is/was vintage. Bit of a funny story behind it too...Here is the short version: Chair abandoned by friend. We rescue, give it love. Friend visits often, laments the abandonment. We win AT prize, buy Alum. Group Lounger. No place for white chair. Friend getting married. We decide fix up with vintage base and have reupholstered. Dude botches upholstery job. Lots of yelling at upholstery shop. Chair seriously ruined. 3 days till wedding. Body grinder and 1 gallon of adhesive remover. Take Fiberglass shell to Rhinoliner. Sprayed with truck bed liner. LOOKS FANTASTIC. Friend Happy.

Cécile (or anyone), Feel free to contact us through www.studiomake.com

Best,
david + im

posted by david + im on 2006-12-12 12:32:50

allo,

can you give the kitchen table dimensions ?
very neat job !

bonobo

posted by bonobo on 2007-04-20 06:23:55
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David and Im,

Ever since I first saw the pics of your flat last year, I find myself frequently coming back for another look. I adore everything about it, but am especially in love with the stainless steal dinner table. I want it! How did you guys get the look and where could I find the materials for constructing something like it?

posted by Ivna on 2007-04-22 18:53:12
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