Saw this yesterday from the East Side Drive. What? I've done that and couldn't disagree more (but it DID get my attention)... What do you think?
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So, the take away is...? Put the baby in min-storage for only $29 a month? It is attention grabbing, but then it turns into a bit of a head-scratcher.
Really? It's telling you to put more belongings in storage so you have room for a baby.
You might have done it, and successfully, but NY is notorious for high rent and small apartments. It's kind of a cliche by now, but it applies more often than not.
Pi hits the nail on the head. We rented a storage unit in the suburbs where it was affordable which gave us a lot more room to live in our small condo.I think this is an effective ad.
There are families all over this country, and the world for that matter, that raise kids in small homes. Not everyone needs a six bedroom McMansion to have a family.
The case for renting a storage unit: why are you paying outrageous rent on something you aren't using every day?
I grew up in a NYC apartment, many people did and still do, it is not that big a deal. The statement is just an ad that is designed to grab attention. It works and the company is getting more (free?) advertising via this post.
@God is in the Details - Because there are things like seasonal clothing and Christmas trees.@lifewithlumpy - No, not everyone does... but there's also nothing wrong with people assessing for themselves that they can't raise a family in a 600 square foot apartment. No one should feel frustrated by their home. Some people have pets and some people need dedicated office space. Everyone has different needs. Renting a storage unit for some of your stuff can help alleviate the pressure of having everyone under a very small roof.
Thank you, lifewithlumpy! Couldn't agree more! My daughter and our two cats love our cozy NYC home.
Glaring grammar mistake; "an" NYC apartment?! Also, if you're strong enough, you can raise a baby. I suppose, if you're rich enough, you can REAR a baby . . .til age 18? I've never been to NYC, but I'd guess it wouldn't be that big if there hadn't been a lot of baby 'raising' going on.
@rmbnn - It's proper to use "an" before letters that sound like they begin with a vowel. So either "a NYC" or "an NYC" is proper because it sounds like "an enwhycee".
Actually, "an" NYC apartment is fine because of the "en" sound you make when you say "NYC."I have no idea what you're saying otherwise, though. A lot of people move to and leave NY as adults. And a lot of people who raise kids in NY are pretty well off, considering the cost of living there.
My nephew and his parents have lived in a 650 sq ft converted studio apartment since shortly after he was born (they were camping in a 250 sq ft place while they were upgrading the studio for the first four months)....It works well for them and has enabled them to let my nephew do a lot of things that they wouldn't be able to do if they lived outside the city and/or had to pay for a larger space.
@rmbnn, several users have already pointed out you are wrong about the "an vs a" issue, but you are also being ridiculously old-fashioned about "rear vs raise". Raising children is perfectly acceptable American English.Also, you've invoked Skitt's Law by making your own grammar mistake. That semicolon doesn't belong in your first sentence.
@Pi, we stored our seasonal stuff off site and made anual trips to pick up the Christmas decorations from the storage locker.We never owned an artificial tree because it wasted space 11 months out of the year, we went with live mulch-able trees.
I saw this ad and it grabbed my interest as well. The Manhattan Mini Storage ads are known for being a bit edgy.That said, my husband and I have all intentions of living with a baby in our 550 square foot two bedroom. We have cats too. So I'm interested to see people's input.
Actually, it's grammatically correct. Yes, NYC starts with an "N", but the actual sound sounds more like "en" which starts with an "E". It's the same grammar rule used when you say "an hour" instead of "a hour".
I'm 100% confident it can be done successfully, but my initial point was people have different needs and just because one couple can raise a child in a small space, doesn't mean others can, or would want to, and that different do not mean superior or inferior choices. My take from this post was that Manhattan Storage was somehow in the wrong for suggesting that people might need more space, when I see it as a reality because people have different needs and wants.
Of course you can raise a family in an NYC (London or Paris) apartment. It helps if you're wealthy and/or have a holiday home, can afford private schools, nice holidays, etc, etc... Theoretically, I think storage units are a good idea. In practice, you tend to forget about what's in them.
We raised one child in the city and we really liked it but I was always bothered that our son would pace up and down our only hall in the place. When we found that the second child was coming we pulled the trigger and moved to an urban suburb (w/ alleys, sidewalks, small yards). Yesterday I came home to find our boy climbing a tree in our yard with no parental oversight, something we always felt we needed to do in the city. And he no longer paces and the whole block has become his playground.The kids love it and that makes me very happy. We still live close enough to expose the kids to ethnic food, museums, public transit, and people of different races and colors.
I'm currently raising a baby in a Vancouver rental apartment. So far so good. Of course baby (Eleanor) doesn't know any different. Her backyard has several hundred beautiful (organic) city parks, beaches, forests, etc.We decided from pregnancy to tell our relatives not to buy us any baby furniture or toys. That certainly helped. And I smile politely whenever someone says "you MUST buy a baby swing! I don't know what I would have done without one!"
@God is in the Details - We did the same thing. Our barely 1-1/2 bedroom rowhome in Philly wasn't going to cut it with the amount of "stuff" our baby was going to acquire. Even a simple stroller out of place would overwhelm the (small) space. Instead of waiting until he was school age, we bolted to the very nearby older 'burbs when he was born. He's only 14 months old now, but the non-confining space has already been worth it.On a historical note, our block of 40 rowhomes once had about 50 kids, according to Neighbor who grew up there. Mind you, the homes are only 12'-13' wide and, per Neighbor: "the kids were stacked like cordwood!".
Of course parents can raise children in inner city apartments. It's not like they're being abusive. That said, let's not pretend it's the same as having your own private fenced in backyard where you can play without having to walk blocks, or take a subway, or plan for every weather contingency be carrying extra clothes.City living is what it is, and I'm sure the parents are doing their best.
I can't believe I need to point this out, the reason rmbnn thought the "an" is wrong is because s/he was reading it as "an New York City."
Ok, (he says) "an" NYC apartment. It just still seems wrong; even when said silently.
Attention grabbing. Cliche. Born/raised/still living in new york and tons of friends live in big apartments and I grew up and live in an actual house so we all had room enough to grow. I also think storage units are stupid/waste of money. Even if it's to store "seasonal items and xmas trees"-- why do you have so much of either[ & a large, fake tree] that it can't just fit in your home? You most definitely have too much stuff which, is your prerogative but ridiculous nonetheless.
We lived with our first child for 3 years in a 750 sq foot (barely) condo in the downtown core of Toronto. By the time our 2nd child arrived we needed to move but it wasn't so much to do with the space/size of the condo, as it was the location and the severe lack of parks, green space and family friendly activities that surrounded us.My grandparents raised 2 kids in a similar sized apt in Europe and they never moved their entire lives and somehow it all turned out fine.
Almost everyone I know living in New York has seasonal storage of some type regardless of their stage in life. Either they rent it or borrow space from someone (parent/friend) in the suburbs or at "home." Often it is an off-season wardrobe or baby things in between actual babies.
Left NYC w/ two kids. Storage would not have solved our problems. We could not watch tv after they went to bed or make any noise. We had 1 son in our bedroom and if I so much as rolled over he would wake up. Hell I might move back when they are older and can appreciate other aspects of the city more (and our HHI goes up!). But it was pretty hellacious if you ask me.
I agree with the idea on the sign, but to me it's not an advertisement for renting storage lockers. It's an advertisement for moving to a town where your kids will have daily access to land/nature, with wandering unsupervised in the woods, hearing the creek burble by, hanging peanut-buttered pine cones for the birds, getting to know the rhythm of crocus-daffodil-redbud-lilac-hydrangea-tomato-chrysanthemum. And yes, that kind of childhood is still attainable in some places.
Here in the city I live in, there's a big so-called "smart" movement. Let me just say I've lived in this city nearly all my life and I love it. But I do have some problems with "Smart Growth." Many of its advocates, first of all, are house-owning, car-owning people who preach the carless and micro-living gospel. The hypocrisy can be sooo tiresome. (And yeah? obvious)The particular space I happen to live in is pretty small, and while I like not having a lot of .... stuff and space to maintain, I want a larger space to be able to ENTERtain better. No doubt about that.There was an interesting editorial in our local examiner today about how our city really is into sending kids to school at a super early age, like 3! I laughed and thought, yeah, because many kids live in such tiny spaces. Might as well get out of the house. Kind of a joke, but kind of true.This article raises lots of interesting questions about living and space. The huge majority of Americans have zero idea how to live like this. There's no doubt it can be done, and to some extent it should be done. But there's no modulation in the thinking about it, or I should say there's not much. We do NOT and should not have to go micro. That's for England and Japan, I'm sorry to say. And not even England lives like that. In fact, they can tell us how to use space so much better than we are now. There's even a development in the works (and yeah, developers RULE here) of micro apartments with NO WINDOWS. Why oh why do we want to encourage this barbarism?The mistake the "Smart Growth" (trademark sign) movement makes is in NOT planning for families but going density full bore and without really thinking. Cities that do not plan for growth by families are cities that will die a consumerist death.
I was raised in NYC, and we are raising our daughter here. For the first 7 years of her life, we lived in a 400 square foot, 1BR apartment. We have since moved into a spacious 950 square foot 2BR. I certainly don't relate to the "oak in a thimble" concept. That sounds stifling. I experience NY as an enriching and expanding environment for kids.
This is nothing but promoting excess. I have never had a storage unit and never will. If you don't use it lose it. Such a waste of money. Americans live with way to much stuff. Be simple.
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