Q: Ever since I saw Ina Garten's orange velvet curtains in her Manhattan apartment (featured in House Beautiful), I've been looking for something similar for my living room. The color is not very popular, because I've been looking all over the web for them for more than half a year now.
The usual suspects, Pottery Barn, West Elm, Restoration Hardware, etc, tend to do red or burgundy for their velvet curtains, but never orange. I have looked into buying orange velvet fabric and having someone make them, but the time to search for the fabric and and the risk of getting shoddy workmanship is not worth it to me. Anyone seen these curtains anywhere in a store in NYC or online? I have a Pottery Barn budget, so 100% silk velvet curtains like Ina's are never going to happen. I am good with 100% cotton or 100% poly. Also, I have high ceilings, so I need curtains that are 108 inches or longer (the ones I've found so far have been at the most 96 inches). Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Have you tried Calico Corners?
http://www.calicocorners.com/category/designer+fabrics+for+the+home/shop+fabrics+by+color/orange.do?ViewX=24&page=1&filterBy=Solid&sortby=12
I had an old movie theater curtain that color. You may want to look at theater supply companies.
Here is a movie theater company that sells velour curtains.
http://www.majortheatre.com/curtains.html
If you just want straight panels and are willing to hang then on clips, I would get them made. The seamstress at my dry cleaner sews all my curtain panels for me, with lining, for about $30 panel. It's more if you want pleating or pockets on the top, but velvet hangs so beautifully, I don't think you would need them. And seriously, you've looked for these curtains for a year, but aren't willing to google for fabric? It's A LOT easier to find fabric than ready-made drapes.
I know you said you checked PB but they do have velvet drapes in a color called Maple Leaf that's more orange than red.
Here, I found a photo.
http://sarahbernardydesign.com/blog/2010/09/all-things-orange/orange-accents-001/
Also, I agree with you, Ina's apartment is perfection.
Pottery Barn used to sell velvet drapes in a shade of pumpkin years and years ago. I have the matching pillow:) Try an ebay search.
Definitely agree with ALYSSA.RAE
Curtains are so easy to make, your fears of shoddy workmanship are unfounded. It's not like custom slipcovers which are difficult, or even a pair of pants which are VERY difficult. I think you need to find a good tailor by word of mouth, and they can make your curtains with zero problems. You have to buy the material, decide on the final size, decide how you are going to hang them and purchase the right rods, grommets, or pleat tape. The search for material is crucial. You see how these curtains have a rich drape, but do not appear stiff despite the gathers? Poly velvet can sometimes achieve that but more often than not can be very stiff. Also the back of the velvet can be quite ugly in cheaper fabrics. You need to figure out how you will deal with that issue. Whatever you decide, you will have to get samples and work with the person who will sew them. Let their experience with fabrics guide you. Good luck! Pantone says orange is the color of the year, this fall might bring what you are looking for to the marketplace.
TSPINTERIORDESIGN - Thanks for the link! Looks like those are mostly non-velvet options. I am only considering velvet (or velour) because of the sheen it gives off (as you can see in the pic). The only velvet option is too expensive per yard - it will mean the curtains will cost over one grand once I buy the fabric and have someone make it : (
DUANE HILL - I hadn't considered theater supply companies! I'll look into into it! I'm still hoping to find something from a store that's premade so I have to option of returning if they don't look right in the room.
Ebay? These are from England, but the price is good... http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-VINTAGE-BURNT-ORANGE-GINGER-VELVET-CURTAINS-82-L-X-104-W-/320970739077?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Curtains_Blinds_Curtains_EH&hash=item4abb58cd85#ht_1625wt_1056
Or buy velvet curtains in a light color and then dye them.
ALYSSA.RAE - I will sheepishly admit that I am holding out for premade because I have the option of returning if I decide the curtains don't work in the room. It would be awful if I chose a fabric online (getting just a little swatch in the mail), having it made by someone, and then realizing the tone is off or it's just terrible. However, as more time passes (and I get more worn out over this), I will probably change my mind.
TEQUILA RED - I saw the PB curtains in that color in person - they are definitely more red than orange : (
REDBELLYBUTTON - Thanks! I'll do a search on eBay.
MSPICKY - Thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought about backing or stiffness, which I guess would make it even more crucial for me to see large samples in person if I go with custom-made.
While I haven't had them make CURTAINS, I actually had my tailor make a crib skirt based on the measurements and fabric that I provided... I can't justify the purchase of a sewing machine that I'd use twice a year when they do such a good job (supporting the local economy too!), and not including the cost of fabric, it only cost $30 for a the crib skirt... ask a local tailor how much they'd charge if you provided your own fabric - chances are you'll be pleasantly surprised.
DESIGNADE - Those are gorgeous and the exact color I'm looking for! At 82 inches, the length is too short : ( I'll definitely do a "saved search" on eBay though.
JDDAR - Here is the link to the House Beautiful article. I am in love with her whole color scheme! http://www.housebeautiful.com/kitchens/city-kitchen-0507#slide-1
KN14606 - I guess I will start asking around for a tailor that people trust, then get estimates before buying the material. The consensus here is to go that route.
Everyone, please keep sending other ideas/store sources in the meantime though!
Have you checked out Smith and Noble? They have pretty much everything, plus they'll send you swatches for free, so you can make sure you have what you want before ordering. Not super cheap, but definitely not in the Ina Garten price range.
www.smithandnoble.com
I vote for trawling the local fabric stores. There's one in my D.C. area that has a good selection and offers frequent sales AND coupons. I combined these with a LivingSocial voucher and I got a $90 discount on 10 yds. of fabric to cover a chair.
This way, you can be sure that it's EXACTLY what you want - AND they may even give you a swatch to take home and be sure. And your local tailor may be way more gifted than you expect! I know mine is! : )
I have these orange curtains, and they are lovely, but seems like they are sold out :-(
http://www.countrycurtains.com/product/01015l266x+chelsea+lined+rod+pocket+curtains+-+pumpkin.do?sortby=ourPicks&filterby=
You won't be able to achieve that luster or drape with bargain fabrics or mass-market, premade curtains. The curtains in the photo are silk or silk-rayon, lined in silk. Theater curtains have a great drape, but are less lustrous and more like velour, with a wooly feel. What not adapt the money look to your budget and go with a duipioni silk, which can be easily found in that deep saffron color? Online custom curtain companies are budget friendly.
I have always found Ina Garten disturbing in some deep way that I couldn't pinpoint. It finally dawned on me that she's very much like a cat, always on the verge of licking herself. I dislike cats. I really, really dislike cats.
Those curtains are lovely and to duplicate them you will need to spend a small fortune. You might keep an eye out at Anthropologie which frequently uses that color orange in curtains. (Often listed as red but really an orange if you read the comments.)
Also, have the considered the quality of light in your home? You have to have absolute masses of bright sunlight to handle velvet curtains without making your room into a tomb.
I'm sorry but you just need to make up your mind about whether or not you want the look you have been fawning over for a year and then commit to making it happen - at an affordable price. I'm sure Ina's curtains were custom made. And you can have that happen too. Especially since your length seems hard to find.
Find a fabric you think you like - online or in a store. Buy a yard. Dangle it from your wall for a week and decide if you like it. If so, yelp your nearest dry cleaners to see if they do alterations, and if so, go with the one that is least expensive. I too recommend having a simple hem around all four edges and using curtain rings with clips. That way if you move, you can easily adapt these to dimensions of another window.
If you've found premade curtains that are too short, consider a coordinating velvet border on the bottom. A dry cleaner (or friend with a sewing machine) can sew a straight seam on a premade curtain and it wouldn't cost a lot.
"I will sheepishly admit that I am holding out for premade because I have the option of returning if I decide the curtains don't work in the room. It would be awful if I chose a fabric online (getting just a little swatch in the mail), having it made by someone, and then realizing the tone is off or it's just terrible. However, as more time passes (and I get more worn out over this), I will probably change my mind."
Judibean,
are you serious? Don't get offended but I have a hard time imagining how you go through life with this approach. Aren't you afraid to open the front door and step into the street each morning?
I would understand if you were hesitant to order fabric based on a small swatch if the fabric was patterned (especially if the pattern was large), but SOLID COLOUR?
I have ordered samples from a few online sites and the samples are not that miniscule, on average, they were 4"x6".
If I wanted orange velvet curtains that badly (and I love the example that you posted) I would have bought the schmatta and I would have them made. There is so little so screw up on solid curtains - there is nothing more to them but straight stitch lines. With velvet, you should get a new worry to your existing ones - what if you have them made and on each panel, the "grain' is in different direction?
@Canadianmango - Some people are more visual than others. Just as some people are more tolerant and tactful than others.
Wow! There is a lot more to consider than I would've ever thought - taking notes as I go along... I guess to clarify on one thing, I AM scared of spending $500 on custom-made curtains that end up looking imperfect, whether that means the color is off when the afternoon sun hits it, or whether that means having chosen the wrong width so that there aren't enough folds or maybe too many folds, etc. I have never spent this amount of money on curtains before or ever had them custom-made (i.e., no returns). I AM pretty slow and deliberate about what I want to do (that's just my nature), but you guys are helping me see that I don't have too many options other than going custom.
I think at this point, I would love to get any more advice about what to look for when choosing velvet fabrics since I'm completely new to this (matching the grains is a good example). Thanks so much for all your help! You guys are awesome!
I don't understand why orange isn't more popular! I had a matching living room set upholstered in orange-gold crushed velvet that was just * luscious*. Orange can really warm a room up and make you happy :-) Good luck.
This post on drapes on Emily Henderson's blog might be helpful; most of it doesn't apply here but some of it does (e.g. how to calculate yardage) http://www.stylebyemilyhenderson.com/blog/secrets-to-inexpensive-but-good-drapery.html
The Silk Trading Company (online, does high- quality curtains for the price) has silk velvet, just to give you an idea, for $180/yard. They have a browner version of your color, called Toast. But the you are probably talking $2k for a pair of extra-long curtains.
...however, they have a Como silk --Rusty-- that is almost exactly your color, for $36/yard.
If you've been trying to replicate these for six months, you like them enough to risk the investment. You will probably have to order the material because even if you find it at a local store, they are unlikely to have enough for such a large window. Use you fear of commitment as a reason to take the time to order the swatch instead of rushing into afull order right away. That way you can be sure the texture isn't too thin or velour-like. Unless you want pinch pleats (I would), these curtains can be among the simplest possible sewing jobs, with few visible seams (although sewing velvet can be tricky since it can be slippery). And honestly -- you're in NYC and you don't think you can find someone who can make curtains without shoddy workmanship? What's the point of living in a big city. If you're still wavering about the color, maybe you need to double-check how these will look next to the other stuff you own, as opposed to the stuff in Ina's house.
If I remember correctly, Ikea has rusty orange curtains. You can buy a panel and hang it on the window to see if this is the right shade, and then shop for fabric in the same colour. True, it won't be an exact match because the Ikea ones are polyester so it will always reflect light differently than velvet, but it would give you an idea if that's the shade you can live with. Ikea has a very generous return policy, 3 months unless it has changed recently, so that would allow you to keep it for a while and check if your swatches from online fabric stores are a good match or not.
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I'm pretty surprised that no one has mentioned going to a window coverings store where they specialize in making custom-made curtains. They are everywhere, with at least one per mall. Or a home design store -- they do them too. You don't have to worry about how much you need, they know all the formulas and will guide you through it. The only caution I would add is that they are unlikely to make curtains that will puddle on the floor (too practical!), and so if that is what you want, you will have to specify -- perhaps forcefully.
As for the fabric, why not order a sample from the fabric company that Ina used? That way, you will have an actual sample of what you want and it will be easier to match; as well, you can find out their costs (who knows, you may be able to afford them!). If you can't do so directly, they will inform you who their retailer is in the U.S., and you can do it through them. As well, with the sample, you will be able to determine whether the colour works in your room.
http://www.prelle.fr/files/pdf/velours/Gamme_229.pdf
Their colours are truly extraordinary, and I guarantee you will not find anything that approaches their beauty, but there are many fabric stores (e.g. B&J Fabrics in NY, where I have bought some nice velvets in the past) to check.
Good luck! (and stop looking for ready-made -- they are the ones with shoddy quality!!)
The curtains you would like are lovely! I had heavy cotton curtains in this colour (old Pier 1 shower curtains used as window curtains) and found they gave the room an orange glow. I finally swapped them out for lighter coloured curtains as it was like always living in a sunset. Unless you have a light blocking lining in them, they will probably make your room glow when the sun shines through.
Over the last 6 or 7 years, I found silk bead trimmed pillows in this colour, an Ikea off-white and burnt orange carpet, slightly paler orange crushed velour (about 5CAD/m, which would make great drapes), deep orange chiffon with skinny shades of pink lines on it (about 3CAD/m, made into a shower curtain) and burnt orange fake silk damask that looks identical to the real thing (about 3CAD/m, which would also make great curtains). I picked up the velour about 2 years ago, the chiffon about 3 years ago, and the fake silk about 6 months ago, all from Fabricland in Ontario, Canada.
The colour is out there and is quite hard to find in a variety of fabric, let alone trying to find it in silk velvet (and nothing hangs quite the same way as silk velvet). The colour is amazing to live with as it is so warm and friendly although, personally, I doubt I will make curtains out of it again. I currently have a blend of the burnt orange, raspberry, black/white/dark gray, mustard, and turquoise in a pale gray living room and love it.
Finally, I think sun rots silk, if I remember correctly, which means you would need to be quite careful of it in the window. I had a silk embroidered shawl in a window a number of years ago that faded very fast and wound up with holes in it. You may want to look into the care of silk velvet. Imitation fabrics may not hang quite as well but may well be far more durable, cheaper, and worth the trade-off.
Finally, depending on the fabric you select, you may be able to use iron-on tape to do your own hemming and use clips of some kind to avoid sewing all together. A fabric shop with a drapery section should be able to help you with this. If you were to settle with a crushed velour, the fabric doesn't need any kind of hem (it is a nightmare to sew, and the raw cut edge will just curl in a little bit), can be cut to size, then easily hung up with some clips. I have often seen it on sale for about 5CAD/m, which is very cheap.
Have fun, and good luck! :)
OMG. Rural and Rueful, your comment has had me howling with laughter! That comment seriously belongs in the AT Comment Hall of Fame!!!
"I have always found Ina Garten disturbing in some deep way that I couldn't pinpoint. It finally dawned on me that she's very much like a cat, always on the verge of licking herself. I dislike cats. I really, really dislike cats."
So. Funny.
@judibean
Since the ebayed ones are 82in tall and 104in wide, perhaps you could just buy them and then just flip them for use (probably get a pro to get this bit done, installing loops or whatever). But 40GBP+shipping (+small alteration fee for adding the pole pocket or whatever to the right side) is not that much to blow on this experiment, and 104in is not far from 108in....
That is a great idea, lepidoptery!
You could always add a band of thick satin, or some other fabric, that could pool on the floor. About $150-200 and you would have your curtains!
West Elm HAD a lovely shade of orange like that in a silk. I noticed them when they went on clearance. The Philadelphia store had 2 left (I only needed 2) - but only in a 84" and 108" length. I needed 96" drats!
@canadianmango I have the old Ikea ones and they are EXACTLY the color in this picture... however, they don't seem to be sold anymore in the states and I don't see them on ebay.
Wen I was in college, I had drapes made of brushed twill that gave a similar feel to velvet, but was easier to maintain. You might look for that as well, since orange is a color in fashion right now (thank you, Mood.) I totally understand wanting to take your time to find the right thing, I search forever for everything, but then I never change, so waiting for what I love is worth it.
I also drooled on my magazine when I saw those curtains. I think part of the appeal was the big beautiful window, too. Here is a link to some velvet at Mood Fabrics- $35 a yard. It seems to have the burnt orange/brown/amber tone that Ina's has.
http://www.moodfabrics.com/index.php?file=productdetail&iprod_id=28125&icat_id=1&icatidntr=1&icatidwtr=&icatidwbt=&icatidwnewtr=&icatidwac=&shortdes=&passtype=&vcolor=%27Orange%27&vpattern=&vapplication=&pricerange=&onsale=&newarrival=1&custfav=&closeout=&wholesale=&pagelimit=24&page=1&keyword=&topmatmsvalms=&vbrand=
I think you need to expand your search terminology and bust out that thesaurus! I used "sienna" and "cinnabar" and found this fabric, which I think is well-priced and looks pretty spot on for color. I had custom curtains made for my kitchen (found some great tea towels and had to line them/add a border, etc.) and I've never looked back. Granted, they cost me probably a small percentage of what you'll pay for drapes, but I still think it's worth it to get what you really want. I don't splurge on much when it comes to my home, but I still love walking into my kitchen every single day.
Think of other words to describe that orange color (J Crew catalog colors? Paint swatches?) and try more searches!
If you are not moving anytime soon, it's worth it to have draperies made. Find material you love and a seamstress or workroom to measure and fabricate for you. Great draperies add a lot to a room.
You could also try the Shade Store for a semi-custom solution.
Hi: We have an Hermes-orange velvet which is Oeko Tex certified if you want to make them yourself. www.oecotextiles.com
I have very similar ones that I bought at Target.com a few years ago. Since the color is gaining popularity, maybe they will sell them again!
http://www.halfpricedrapes.com/signature-desert-velvet-drapes.html
Try a theatrical textile house, like Rose Brands
http://www.rosebrand.com/product1184/48-Velvet-FR.aspx?tid=2&info=orange%2bvelvet
or Danzian
https://www.dazian.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_order_color&style_id=144&group_id=81&style_color_id=2322&cat_id=0&color_family_id=2
Custom design and construction is always worth the investment. I've had custom panels in fabrics I adore professionally made and then move them from house to house. A drapery workroom will change the width, add length, or add trim to suit the window and style in your next digs. Commit to those few fabulous things in a room (draperies, rugs, upholstery) and I bet they will continue to bring you satisfaction for years, even as fads come and go.
And, yes, dark velvet panels will make most rooms feel like either a tomb or a brothel! But good luck to you.