We had this stroller (P&T). We folded it every day. There is no way for it not to take up a lot of space. Sorry!

We have an Uppa Baby Vista. In our first apartment it lived in corner of the living room next to the door, the next place in a deep closet in the hall and this apartment it just sits in the hall near the front door. I have never folded it for storage. I keep my shopping bags in the basket and by purse/diaper bag on the handles.

I can't speak for the streets of Brooklyn however, my P&T was brilliant for the streets of London here in the UK. It easily handled the curbs, parks and bumpy bits (always check the tyres otherwise steering becomes difficult). It was also excellent for public transport as it takes up only a little more room (lengthwise) than a single buggy. They have a new one out called the 'Vibe' http://philandteds.com/products/push/vibe which folds down much smaller without needing to remove the backseat which is annoying. Also it is made of aluminium which is meant to make it lighter. This would be my only complaint about the P&T - it is very heavy. Add two children to that and you don't want to be taking it up too many steep hills or steps. I stored ours in the car as I couldn't take it down all the steps to our basement apartment.

Also, my eldest (now 4.5 years) stopped wanting to be in the P&T when he turned 3 - and certainly couldn't fit in the back if the basket had things in it. Instead we went back to the Bugaboo with a buggy board on the back and stopped using the P&T all together so you may not get much long term use from it.

Although I'm not a "city dweller", (more like suburb) my sisters and I all have the p&t strollers. At costco right now there is a REALLY good price on the dash model, and it folds up pretty easily. It also has a pocket in the back of the front seat where you can store stuff, and I'm going to sew velcro on that pocket to keep it closed. (That way when I fold up the p&t the contents will stay in there and I won't have to take them out everytime.) We also love the p&t because of their bright colors. No more worrying about losing your stroller - you can easily see the bright red ANYWHERE from the corner of your eye. Unlike other strollers, it folds up compact enough to fit into the trunk of ANY car.

One more thing to consider if you get the p&t: the only drawback we have found is the tires. Get them replaced with heavy-duty wheelbarrow tires (or go to a bike shop) because it's no fun to get stranded with a flat tire. :) Other than that we LOVE it! Highly recommended!

We store our stroller in the trunk of our car. It is a little inconvenient to take out each time, but I hated that it took up valuable real estate in the house.

We got a super heavy duty hook at the hardware store and we hang it on the back of a door. If you have room, you might be able to do this inside a closet.

we're in a condo and are allowed to store ours in the entryway. i guess we're lucky that there are other families with children in the building, so no one complains about the chalk, ride-on toys, strollers and such cluttering our main entrance!

I don't mean this to sound uppity, but have you considered skipping a stroller for the older child altogether? At 3.5, they're really capable of walking and a double stroller will never be small.

We weaned our oldest off a stroller at about 2.5 since we knew her baby sister would arrive around her third birthday. She walks, and baby rides in a nicely compact Maclaren. There's never been an issue. She's now 3.5 and has more energy than the two of us adults put together. I figure if she can spend a whole morning running around a playground, she can walk wherever we need to go...

We used the bugaboo a lot with our first until he could walk. But once he could walk we didn't use it often, maybe once a week. We bought a double maclaren with the birth of our second. We used it twice during her first year of life. I just found it easier to carry the baby and have my hands free for the toddler. Our double is hogging up a closet. The bugaboo is hogging up the entryway. (My husband takes the baby for a walk everynight).

We have both a small apartment (650sq.ft) and a Phil&Teds (no double kit though). Though it's on the big side, it folds up pretty flat, so we have it wedged between a wall and a bookcase! (If I were able to send you a photo I would.) Also, the all the wheels come off easily so you can cram it almost anywhere, really.

Mom of twins chiming in here. We use the City Mini Micro double in downtown Toronto and we fold it when not in use. It is amazingly easy to fold, stores very compactly and sits inside our hall closet underneath all our jackets. It turns on a dime and I have yet to meet a door that it won't fit through.

we live in brooklyn too and I think less is more in the stroller department.

you could buy an ergo pack for the baby, and hold hands with your three year old while you walk.

i live in brooklyn in a 4th floor walk up and i have the p&t (soon to add the doubles kit) and an uppa baby g-luxe umbrella stroller. we live in a building where there are 3 other kids and so people are pretty forgiving... i don't fold both of my strollers, just the one i haven't been using.
the p&t isn't very small folded and honestly it's a pain when you have a kid and stuff to lug up the stairs. when number 2 arrives i will most likely park the p&t outside all day (locked to the gate) and then just bring it in at night. i think i will most likely carry number 2 until he/she is about 4 or 5 months old. then i will add the doubler.
anyway, try to score an apartment where you can leave the stroller (whichever one you end up with) downstairs. it will make brooklyn living much easier!
and welcome to the hood!

I love my p&t, too!! We're semi-urban - we live in an apartment complex that has lots of grass and paths, and we leave ours outside. All the time. Year round (we're in sourthern california...). It gets a little faded that way (of course, we bought it off of craigslist to begin with), but I hate lugging it up the stairs.

But I still LOVE my p&t. We've gone through several double strollers...we also have a maclaren double (off cl, too), and had a BOB double that we sold because it was too bulky. We also have a couple of single strollers.

Before I had my second - and before I lived somewhere that I had to haul all of my groceries & laundry significant distances - I looked down my nose at people with big strollers and/or lots of strollers. But where we live now, they are absolutely indespensible.

Sure, my 4-year-old is capable of walking. But we walk a LOT. And when both kids have fallen asleep, or the older kid's legs are worn out, and my shoulders have had it, or I have to haul a week's worth of groceries...well, I'm VERRRRY grateful for my doubles.

I agree with the editor's comment: we keep ours open and think it's worth it to give up the floor real estate so we can leave quickly, plus keep things in the giant basket below. BUT when we did fold our stroller up (in the past, before we gave up doing so), I got a big tote bag to hold all of the stroller basket contents, and then it was easy to load and unload.

We live on the outskirts of the CBD and we walk to everything. We have 2 heavy duty hooks in our laundry (I use the side access to back of house when with stroller), and I fold the pram up and hang it up on one. I hang our second seat and toddler board on the other. It's definitely not an attractive solution, but it works really well for us.

Just wanted to reply to Soozle, I'm not one for the "if you can play at the playground, you can walk there and back too" theory (same as the "if you have room for ice cream, you have room for vegetables" theory!!). We have 3yo twins and a 10mth old and I LOVE the idea of not needing a stroller when out and about, but it just doesn't happen. Being able to go at a decent pace and not stress about traffic or holding onto two little people while pushing/wrangling a baby makes the stroller-related-hassle totally worth it every time.

oops. Meant to say we have a Baby Jogger City Select (which we love!!)

My sister-not-in-law-but-you-know-what-i-mean has the icandy for baby number one and I can't believe how small the base folds and how easy it is to do one handed. She's got the one that can be upgraded to a double (the pear, maybe?) and I'd highly recommend it!

(it's actually the peach, which you can get the peach blossom conversion) SO GOOD so far (still only one baby in the carry cot), but they take the carrycot up to the flat and leave the folded base in the hall where it's about the same size as an overnight suitcase.

My (huge when folded) BOB lives in the trunk of my car. Not ideal, but I prefer that to having it in the house in the way or in the garage getting dirty.

If you're going to keep a car, leaving a stroller in the trunk is the way to go. I live in a third floor walkup. The g-luxe I can carry up, but the vista is way too heavy with baby and bags. So it stays in the trunk, and even if it means walking halfway down the block (or more) it's still less effort than carrying it up, and it stays safe and dry when not in use.

We live in a third-floor walkup in Manhattan and are expecting twins. Our first (now 2 yo) went pretty much from the Ergo straight to shoulders/walking so we never did a lot of stroller with him.

I'm hoping to carry/Ergo the twins for as long as possible, but I don't think we're going to be able to avoid getting a double stroller at some point.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a light double stroller for the twins considering that we 1) live in a walk-up and 2) ride the subway frequently?

@lwestbro.... I cannot recommend the BJ City Select enough. It has multiple configurations, you can use it with capsules, the kids can face each other, away from each other, face you, face out, you can have a bassinet, it's easy to push and manoeuvre. It's only slightly longer than a single stroller and it folds up really easily, and if you use it with capsules, than you can leave sleeping babies in them while you go in/out of house. We use a buggy board with it, which you're not supposed to, but Baby Jogger are set to release their own in the next few months. The great thing is that if your building are ok with you leaving the frame downstairs, it folds up really small and you can just take the stairs up to your aptmt.

oops... I meant take the seats up to your aptmt

We also park ours in our dinning room. Sometimes (like periods of particularly bad weather) we fold and stuff behind an oversized upholstered chair, which creates a cleaner look. If we have company and really need the space, it's parked in our bedroom.

We have the BJ City Mini and adore it.

We live in downtown San Francisco and have a Maclaren double stroller. It's huge and takes up a bunch of space, so we bought a Metro Tots over the door stroller storage. It's great! And it's temporary, which is awesome since we rent. www.metrotots.com