Name: Patty and Chris
Location: Astor Place/Union Square
Size: 2000 sqft
Favorite: The ceilings, the windows, and the good bones.
Patty and Chris moved in three years ago to what was once a candle factory, but what had since been overly adorned by a previous owner during the late 70’s/early 80’s. Instead of appreciating the apartment for what it is—a formerly industrial brick building with huge windows and brick walls with arches over each window, high ceilings and lots of space—the former dwellers tried to eek out an Italian villa in the middle of the Village.
As we know, this was the way of the 1980’s — to build up and add busy-ness. And now, 20 years later, renovators and interior decorators across the city are doing their best to break down and strip away all those seemingly superfluous flourishes. Patty loves the apartment and believes it has “good bones.” Her goal, then, is to expose as much of those bones as possible and let it’s natural beauty shine through.
Do you have an idea for a house tour? Let me know! jill@apartmenttherapy.com
The good thing about Patty being a full time business school student during their first year and a half in the apartment is that she didn’t have time to tackle the space and Chris was indifferent. They were able to live in what felt like a rental and learn to understand the intricacies of their immediate environment—what worked and what didn’t. As a result, the major, impending, renovation consists of thoughtful and tactical interventions.
Phase 1, late last year included upgrading all the windows to Argon double pane glass with wood on inside and cladding on the outside and that help to enhance temperature control in the apartment; painting the master bedroom; removing crown molding and a fake fireplace in the front room; and fully renovating the kitchen and bathroom. The remainder of the apartment will get its facelift starting next month in what is likely to be a 3-month process.
Tenets of Patty’s approach are to remove any and all falsified arches in the apartment, to create efficient storage space, to minimize detailing, and to integrate sustainable building practices wherever possible including refinishing the floor instead of replacing it, keeping the ceiling fans to counteract the summer heat, using better insulated windows, buying vintage furniture instead of new furniture, and buying low-flush toilets and Energy Star appliances.
Resources:
Jack, the space designer who helped with the kitchen
Angela Okajima, ceramicist and potter who did the white sculpture on the wall next to the hutch.
Sean, raku potter who did the pottery above Patty's desk.
Penine Art and Antiques who supplied the unfinished chairs in the front room.
Comments (35)
Who ARE these people, and how do they afford something like this? What'd they do, start Yahoo or something?
oh god.... i would do such bad things to have that space.
side note.....i can never see the slide shows. I see the thumb nails, but no large pics. I don't know why I have never mentioned this before.
I'm on an ibook.... anyone else have this problem?
I'm with Dana. What do these folks do for a living? Jeez. Is that new money or old money? Which ever is the case I am a tad bit jealous.
This is why I find Apartment Therapy so interesting. I have to say that none of these pieces separately are my taste, but together, I think they look great.
The space is really amazing. Love the windows! And to address the posts above, all my friends who have amazing spaces in NYC either: work on Wall Street, have parents who bought them an apartment outright, or have family members who died in tragic accidents, resulting in big payments. The last option always makes my "real life" space look a lot better.
(BTW, I don't mean to imply that Patty and Chris didn't go an entirely different route than the three above to owning a beautiful apartment!)
JUUUUSSSTTT STUUUUNNNNINGGGG!
I love this loft but I wish there were some color there somewhere besides the red knobs on the stove and the blue deoderant container.
I wonder the same thing when I see places like this with major renovations and expensive (looking) materials. What did I forget to study in college?
The audioblog doesn't seem to have any audio.
Seriously, imagine how much this place costs. Then, look at what's been done to it. If you have the money to afford a HUGE domicile in THAT location, throw some money at an interior designer and DO SOMETHING WITH IT. The interior, from the furniture to the cupboards is absolutely horrendous. I'm not expecting a Dwell magazine layout here, but when I think about choosing between living around this hodge-podge, tatterdemalion style compared to what I've done with my tiny studio, I'm staying put. And even just thinking that way makes me feel like vomiting. UGH! This could be SUCH a beautiful space! Please, it's crying out for help!
Really!? I think they did a great job with the kitchen. And I like the slipper chairs in the living area. I love the bathroom, I love the dining area. Maybe they ran out of money (I would have) and are waiting on the master bedroom, etc.. But I think they did a very nice job. But that's just me.
What a great space!
HIGH FIVE!
~Holly
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Can't help but chime in now...as to Peter's points...You're right. It is a total hodge-podge right now! We're basically in the middle of renovations and decorating, and as you guessed, it costs cash. Literally we are in between construction crews and waiting for building permits right now and Jill asked to visit even with this in mind. So, it is a major work in progress and going more slowly than we would like it to. As I said, "I love the bones!" right now. It COULD BE such a beautiful space! And we're hoping one day it will be, sooner rather than later, if I can help it. In the meantime, I just look out the window as much as I can. Also, I wish I had more "before" pics than the ones that were posted in the slide show. If you could have only seen it before we started to strip it down. Things like random boards, beds and ladders are not my idea of great decorating, either, but are just part of the scenery these days as we get our butts in order. But, I do love my new cabinets, sorry you don't feel the same.
As to Anne, there is more color coming, I promise. The front room is very beige and brown right now and definitely could use some cheering up. And there is lots of fabric missing, curtains, furniture, pillows, art,etc. Any ideas as to what to put on the big wall?
Patty - One more thing, I don't mean to be pry but where is this apt? In NY? Also, what do you guys do for a living, out of curiousity? I love your space. It appears as though you may work from home, which is why I ask...
~Holly
Holly, the location is stated above as Astor Place/Union Square. That sounds like a Manhattan, New York address.
Patty & Chris, Its a beautiful looking space even unfinished and I'm as envious as the rest of AT. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Pumkin eater obviously did not read the captions where it was obvious that this is a work in progress. I think it is safe to say that your posts will not be missed if you stopped.
But back to this place. I love what you have been able to change so far and am interested that you found a Pietro Cardosa strain that is resistant to staining. As i said here
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/010506/open-threads/open-thread-112-005696
our version is very porous and not stain resistant. Your's looks different in that it is variegated whereas our's is not. If I could redo our kitchen I would do the wrap around counter top material on the island like you did.
The bathroom looks great. Can you tell me the name of the tile you used please? Also I see you used same Kohler Stillness hardware that we did but you also ended up with the same shower drain that we did in our previous bathroom remodel and in our new place. I searched in vain for a different looking one but this seems to be the only design that is available.
Please send updates. You are off to a great start.
Patty & Chris your apt looks gorgeous! Great work! I am in the process of doing a gut renovating my home in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn and doing it all by myself (well my husband helps sometimes) and we are now going on month 19 (argh). Your brick wall looks like it has been sealed but it is not shiny. What did you use? So far I can only find sealers that are clear and shiny. (Or if anyone else can answer that question)
Just beautiful! I love that it is not yet done, it makes me want to see it when it is finished even more. I found it refreshing to see a work in progress--as I sit looking around my new rental apartment I feel like there is so much to do and most days lately I feel overwhelmed and the pull on our wallets. I can't even imagine working on a space this large! Thanks for sharing your home with the AT community--it's inspiring, "unfinished" and all.
How unfortunate that Pumpkin Eater didn't fully read the house tour before posting.
This space is wonderful, and it is great to see the work in progress. I look forward to seeing more pictures as the renovation continues.
Lots of questions! Thanks for the posts.
Let's see the Pietra Cardosa...we got ours from Stone Source. Although it has a little texture, for the most part it is very smooth. The coloring was very different on the slabs that we got than others that we saw. I don't know why, but perhaps the waves is in is what makes it appear variegated. I will ask the guy who installed it what sealer he used, but I'm not sure if that is what is making the difference. Before I got it, I took the small sample that they gave me and spilled everything I could think of on it, olive oil, red wine, etc. And to be honest, it was just a resistent. That's why we went with it.
The bathroom. I also got everything from Stone Source. Tile is either Solar or Lunar Marble (I'm not 100% sure since they were very very close in color). The pattern is 16 inch squares with 16 x 8 inch rectangles. And the shower floor is Maluka Tan River Rocks. Sink and shower doors are from Smolka (who I adored, although I know others have had mixed reviews). Yes, we used the Kohler products and it was funny you should mention the drain, I thought the same. I don't know what the deal is there!
I think the place looks great. I've never seen an apron-front sink in stainless and I dig it. I particularly like the bathroom. The river stone in the shower looks very nice. I think you have the right idea with getting rid of those drywalled arches. They take away from the loft effect.
But like others here, I can't help but wonder where people get their money.
Peter^2, never heard the word 'tatterdemalion' before. Looked it up, learned sump'n new!
Who knows how people afford anything in this town? People work in high-paying professions, invented something amazing, or are trustfundies. All I know is that 1)the first bathroom shown on the video tour is bigger than my entire apartment, 2)the movie location scouts will see the video of this place on AT and come knockin' on PattyChris's door(s), and 3)blue tile rocks.
And, the apartment is just lovely. Never saw a sprawling space with so much character and homeyness. For a work in progress, it looks like it's come pretty far.
I still want to know what these people do for a living. Seriously! :)
I love the art, and I hanker for that shower floor... it must be nice to stand on something so NATURAL in the shower.
Kudos to you for returning this interior to what it was before it went Italianate Villa. I think that's the main point, and well made.
Would you ask someone you just met how/where they got their money? It seems kind of crass. I'm always mystified how people live so well in this ridiculously expensive city but just because Chris and Patty showed us their apartment doesn't mean they should pony up their bank accounts for our perusal.
Agreed that Patty and Chris' professional lives and bank statements are nobody's business but their own.
A great apartment! The terrific light, large open rooms, etc. are the stuff of NYC dreams (especially from the vantage point of my <300 sqft Union Square studio). IMO, you made a great decision in stripping away the previous owner's unnecessary decorative touches to reveal the apartment's great "bones" (as you say). Would love to see what the place looks like when completely finished. Thanks for inviting us into your home!!!
For Stacey...
Unfortunately, our brick is shiny, very shiny and in pretty bad condition. So, I am no help to you. It is a little bit of a quandary...our main purposes of our renovation was to make the apartment feel distinctly like our home and to make the apartment feel more like itself. The brick definitely adds personality/character to the place. As Jill mentioned, the apartment used to be a candle making factory and I'm told before it was converted, the walls were filled with black soot -- some of which is still leftover, but much of which was painstakingly cleaned. So, the bricks are varying colors and some have even been painted. We'll definitely leave the bricks exposed along the wall with the windows, but may end up covering at least some of them along the back wall. We'll see. Also, I don't know the answer to this, but do wall bricks even need to be sealed? It isn't like a kitchen counter or floor tile where it would be contiually splashed. Can you just leave them natural? An apartment downstairs from us has left theirs and they seem to be doing just fine. Maybe call Stone Source? They seem to know a lot about sealers.
The sink is by Bianco. And it was part of the splurge in the kitchen. But, despite all the warning people gave me, I was still surprised at how easily it scratches, so if that would drive you crazy, I wouldn't suggest it.
Happy to give people links to my resources (Jack, really is a star and is very reasonable pricewise) and would love ideas (especially for the empty wall in the living room!).
pj, there was some discussion awhile back about sealing brick walls. Don't recall how it was done though. The concern is that some of these old brick walls while lovely are in fact shedding a lot of dust particles as the old brick is deteriorating and can cause health problems.
ok, what is it exactly we are supposed to tell you? i think the place looks GREAT! we are in the process of fixing up a house in clinton hill and if it looked half as good as your apt i'd be a happy camper. keep up the good wook!
I think it looks great...and the fact that it's "unfinished" makes it even better, as far as I'm concerned.
I agree it's rude to ask people where they got their money. I know someone with a place like this, only more spectacular, in a doorman bldg in what's technically I guess the West Village, but very near the meatpacking district whose decor is "finished" because she spent ka-jillions on an interior designer and custom furnishings. Her money doesn't come from her piddly job...it's simple, her dad's a millionaire and likes to spoil her. That said, just look at the pictures and enjoy how the other half lives, but recognize that you're okay too! That's the only way I'm able to get through dealing with my wardrobe and home furnishings which always pale in comparison to others'!!!!
its easy to buy a ton of expensive furniture and finishings and make an expensive apartment look pretty - it is far more difficult to bring out the beauty in a small, cheap apartment on a budget. I am far more impressed with the latter than the former. To me this isn't even apartment porn - it's just boring and uninspiring.
pj, i like the 'blue and white' plates in the bathroom. where did you get those?
architectress, do you have a website showing your work or could you put it up on flickr?
I like what Threadcollective helped the Mott St. owner do (it was on this site and was around 400sqft) so I wonder if your work is comparable.
I would never ask someone how they got their money or how much they paid for something. Not very respectful. Borderline rude.
But, I always ask, "So what do you do for work?"
That's as common as "So, what's your name?"
I think it's reasonable to ask people what they do for a living, to me, it's fascinating and wonderful to find out. Usually people with apartments like this in NYC have the most fascinating careers and I love knowing...
Asking what someone does for a living is very common in America. If they're in a profession that requires they stay mum, they should just be vague, answer the question "I'm in real estate", and leave it at that. No one should pump for details.
If people post a slide show of their entire personal space on the internet, for instance here on AT where about 55,000 people visit, and then pull the privacy card when some ask, "what's your name" (they can answer "John" withholding last name) or "what do you do?" ....well I don't get that. Once you've decided to become a public figure (so to speak), you have to expect that people will have questions. If you're a very private person concerned about what people know about you, you may not want to post photos of every room in your house, with you being present in some of the photos, in the first place. I AM NOT SAYING THIS ABOUT THIS HOMEOWNER, THIS PARAGRAPH IS MORE OF, "in general". What do you guys think?
But, whatever the case, the home owner has a right to not state their occupation if they don't want to, so none of us should pry.
BUT, for their own sake (and safety, you can't trust everyone online), they are better to simply answer (even if it's vague, i.e. "I'm in publishing"). Sometimes withholding something that is really not a big deal makes people more suspicious of you. Not good.
I think they're space is lovely and I'm excited for them and their home renovation - wishing them the absolute best in their most amazing city loft!
hi holly! there is a link to patty's name, i am assuming that it has something to do with what she does?
Patty:
Can you share the address/ website of the place that you got the shower doors? I'd also be grateful if you could share the info of the contractor that did up your bathroom.
I am in love, lust for a bathroom like your redo! Stunningly beautiful, best use I've seen for a small bath ... you have such great taste!
On the big wall: Have you considered a large scale original painting with some color, light, and motion? One of Harry Fonseca's larger works would be amazing in your space!
Your project is coming along well. Best of luck in the completion of your space!
Lisa