"Matthew is obsessed with restraint," she said, describing his love of Manhattan as an example. "The idea that you're stuck between all these gigantic skyscrapers is a restraint. And he finds it's a turn-on for him, it excites him."
"I find that really fascinating, because I'm the other way around," she said. "I'm like, put me on the top of a mountain with deer licking my fingers or something, and that's creative to me. That's like heaven."
In previous "Drawing Restraint" works, Mr. Barney has talked about how the removal of restraint, allowing for what he describes as eroticism, inevitably results in atrophy.