where are your pillows on the bed from? the colorful ones?

Paying $13,000 for something to sleep on when half the world is sleeping on rags or concrete is disgusting. Surely you could find something better to use your money on than this. I sleep fine, even with back problems, on a $300 mattress. The time for this kind of consumption is over.

I have to say I am so glad you are doing these reviews. Two years ago we got a 2K mattress that we utterly despise. Your reviews will help us in deciding a replacement.

Ridiculous cost! I've been married for 40 years and our bed cost has not yet reached $3000.

I have to disagree. While I would never pay that much for a bed, we humans spend a third of our lives sleeping. Why not invest in a great mattress? Isn't it more important than, say, your car? And some people spend four or five times as much as the mattress on a car.

Colorado Kaye: I'd be careful, falling asleep when you're so high up on that high horse. Might fall off and hurt something.

I was wondering the same as clank1936. While I would never purchase a bed this expensive it would be easier to justify that than a brand new car with the right name and all the bells and whistles. My back is much more important than the impression I make driving to the store

I agree with Colorado's comment. Let's get real.

the price is disturbing. :(

Of all the high-end items I've seen on AT, spending on a bed or sofa are the only two that make sense to me; more so the bed, if it will last one third of your life or even longer.

And I'm with Sara Kate -- I hate that feeling that you're going to roll into your bedmate.

The phrase is "intents and purposes" not "intensive purposes." With that out of the way...

Wow! I'm amazed at the structure of this thing. The softness would drive me crazy, though. We already have a fairly soft (for me) mattress and it's causing me problems, but we can't afford to buy a new one. The firmer version might be something to aspire to.

How cool is it that you get to do this? I'm envious.

I completely disagree with Colorado's statement. These mattresses are handmade using natural materials. Things cost a lot more when they are made by people with quality materials instead of mass-produced in huge factories. They will almost certainly last far longer than a $300 mattress made with toxic materials in a pollution-spewing factory using underpaid, overworked laborers. Paying more for something has nothing to do with overconsumption, especially when it lasts much longer. Production of cheap goods encourages consumption. The replacements you'll need to make up for a longer-lasting piece would make you much more of a consumer, especially if you bought more stuff with the money saved.

Unrelated to the mattress - but where'd you get the headboard? Homemade or store-bought?

You probably know this, but it should be, "for all intents and purposes."

http://littlecitytreehouse.blogspot.com/2010/08/cozy-daybed.html
My tempurpedic was 1,500 several years ago, no bedbugs on these, the 1880's bedframe was in trade for vintage quilt tops, they wanted 1,000 for it.

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http://littlecitytreehouse.blogspot.com/2010/09/stuff-and-things-and-bits-of-string.html
(bottom two "action shots" :) )
Loft bed has a $250 sealy twin mattress on the loftbed (loft bed frame is full size I use the rest of the space to stack books) was sent unassembled we put it together ourselves it was $369

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http://littlecitytreehouse.blogspot.com/2010/10/kitty-model.html
The aerobed air mattress about 160 and a foam cover for it at about 120

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All of these various beds we have accumulated over time have been worth hauling from the East Village to our new home on the Lower East Side and any of which we would share with guests- the air mattress is our "main bed" and very cozy- if you have back troubles just deflate the aerobed a bit its amazing.

So $3,408 for three beds and their supports that we have had for many many years at the oldest (tempur and 1880's bedstead) to new (4 years aerobed and foamtop that is on the floor) Any one of which would be great for a couple. Seems there are many other choices to offer people that last and don't hit the five digit mark in costs and are extremely comfortable.

Why is it that everything that is "good" and "green" is such an expensive commodity?

I have "cotton, wool, horsehair, flax, steel and wood" in my backyard.

If I gather it together and turn it into a mattress, will you pay me $13K for it?

Let me know. I'm struggling and could use the money.

Yikes that much for a bed seems crazy, until I think about how much my car cost. @missizzy you got a point there.

Besides this is a TEST they are doing, clearly the point is to prove if the cost is worth it. Chill out guys!

Colorado Kaye,

Your argument is actually indicative of why people are poor. Being poor and unable to afford this mattress is not any more holy than being rich and being able to afford it.

You are not doing anyone a favor when you make comments that imply that being poor and sleeping on the concrete is why you shouldn't buy this mattress. Take your morality to another blog.

Look, buying a $4 cup of coffee at Starbucks is a revolting display of disposable income. How many people who comment on this site can say they haven't ever done it?

(Yes, I realize there are millions, nay, billions of people in the world who don't have access to and can't afford a $4 Starbucks coffee. I wager few, if any, of them are commenting on Apartment Therapy.)

Yeah you spend a lot of time in a bed, but I would think you can get a comparable comfort in a bed that's 1/4 of the cost. These Hastens folks are no doubt making a killer profit margin on this bed. It's a bed people, not a car... Let's think about material costs! Not really comparable.

This is the Bugatti of beds!

For $13,350 -- I'd furnish this room with amazing furniture and have enough money left over for a trip in the Bahamas. Unless this bed has money or gold bars stuffed inside it, it is not worth this much! And hell with sleep! I can sleep on the floor or sofa for free!

If you look at the cost of 13k over 25 years it's really only 1.42 a day and as someone mentioned a starbucks is roughly 4.00 a day or 36,500.00 over 25 years.

As someone with back problems I can attest being able to stand sit and walk pain free is important to me personally. I am not saying I would buy this bed but if you find something that can keep you healthy, you like, is eco friendly and if they pay a living wage to their employees then I would add this to my list of beds to investigate.

Also the only 2 pieces of furniture in my house that are not vintage are my bed and my couch so I am not a crazy consumer.

What happens to the bed you tested and presumably are returning? I cannot believe I'm the first person to ask that!

Oh dear! Mattress envy.

They say their mattresses last for 25 years at least. The average mattress is changed every 7 years. That would be about 4 mattresses dumped into the landfills for every household, more for those with multiple bedrooms.

Marc,

I could sleep on the floor or anywhere until I grew up.

If I could afford it I would buy it, they use earth friendly materials and if they pay their workers well that is a bonus.

Why shouldn't a company make something really excellent?

were to get organic plliows/blankets please? we have old ones from ikea, but they don't make such quality anymore

we also have organic ones (wool) from Gaiam, but they are too havy, so we reserve them for our winter gests :)

You probably know this, but it should be, "for all intents and purposes."

Thank-you Gram-girl!

"Why is it that everything that is "good" and "green" is such an expensive commodity?"

Well-made, environmentally friendly, locally made products are, adjusted for inflation, no more expensive than they were a generation ago.

The difference is that our expectation of value has been changed by cheap Chinese imports and automated production techniques producing cheaper (but inferior) goods.

US cost for washers, bolts, etc. = approx $1/ea
China cost for washers, bolts, etc = $0.05.
US cost for labor = $10-40/hr (inc benefits/union dues/etc)
China cost for labor = $0.50/hr

"I have "cotton, wool, horsehair, flax, steel and wood" in my backyard.

If I gather it together and turn it into a mattress, will you pay me $13K for it?"

That's the essence capitalism... take raw materials, add value, market it well and a fortune can be yours.

A pound of iron ore is worth a couple of bucks, but by the time it's processed to stainless steel wire it's worth hundreds, for you to put into a mattress as springs and sell for thousands...

I am also wondering what Charlotte asks - what happens to the beds you test after you return them?

If their mattresses last that long, 25 years, I'd pay for it. I haven't had a good nights rest in years. I think if you suffer from back pain, or simply have a very uncomfortable mattress and could afford this... Some wouldn't think twice about purchasing it.
I rather invest my money, if I had it like this, on my comfort and well being. What I sleep on feels like I'm sleeping outdoors. And I'm stuck with it.

yay gramgirl! thanks for your post.

I agree with Colorado... It's just a rip-off... And it is indeed sad to hear that some people find it normal to spend that much money on a single mattress no matter how comfortable it is...

How does this help your readers? Even the people here who would pay this much for a bed admit that they don't have the option. So what useful information does this convey? (Other than the advertising for the mattress company, which is the point of this exercise, after all.)

Colorado Kaye,
Boy you are popular! By your post I take it that you think rich people should keep their money in the bank? (where it is useless, even to them) I think Hastens have developed a great way to return some of the Rich's money back to the people that need it the most. The wages you are paid are taxed and a part of those taxes then go to help those people who sleep on concrete. Then take the untaxed wage (and in the case of the USA) it is largely spent on products made in China and those wages (0.25c per hour) go to the workers families back in their home village, who by the way are sleeping on the same products that the Hasten's Mattress is made out of, maybe with out the spring steel.
I would love to spend the rest of my life sleeping on a Hastens Mattress but I am not one of the 980,000 people in the USA with a net worth of over $5 million dollars. So I say campaign your rich friends to spend it helps everybody. And if you spend $300 on a mattress then 50% of it's value goes to China but dont worry the Chinese government lends the right back to your government.
I hope this is food for thought...

There is a shop, close to where I live, where they produce hand made premium mattresses, with eco-friendly materials. I purchased a mattress from them 2 years ago; now I sleep like a bear. I paid 800$ for it. So 8000$ seems to me to be a little bit... expensive... And with 80 000$, you can probably build 2-3 schools and an hospital in Cambodia...

I hardly feel like the employees at the mattress company need to be selling $80,000 products to to paid a "living wage." No matter the argument for this bed, i feel like it really cant be justified and companies like this should be looked down upon.

I'm soooo tired of hearing the word "sustainable" as a KA-CHING value; it's Marketing 101.

Create the *illusion* and people will buy it.

I could a lifetime of memories of a fabulous trip for $13K rather than die on the bed I spent that much for.

Good lord Colorado!

Are we all supposed to stuff our mattresses with straw and and cover it handsewn burlap coverlets.

If I had the money I would happily buy that mattress.

That said I am driving a used Saturn station wagon.

Some of us enjoy beautifully made and considered items. Your comments are insulting to those of us who do.

By the by Colorado

Some of us can afford it- some of us now, some of us in the future- are we unwelcome here?

I don't get why eveyone is dumping on Colorado.

But then again, I've learned that internet "expression" makes people more aggressive than they would be otherwise.

I don't get why eveyone is dumping on Colorado.

But then again, I've learned that internet "expression" makes people more aggressive than they would be otherwise

My name is available.

jmbella: A bold statement invites debate, which is exactly what Colorado got.

As this site celebrates (practically fetishizes) conspicuous consumption, not many people agreed with CK's statements.

Melville: What shop? Do they have a website?

Last time I checked, this was a comment section, not a referendum.

Can't we just agree to disagree?

I have been looking forward to AT mattress reviews, but have been disappointed, primarily because of the cost. I am looking for a tempurpedic like mattress, but one that is nontoxic without VOC's. A quality mattress at a good price. Not one worth more than my car!!

I used to have a plush, expensive, Beautyrest mattress. Then, last winter I went to India, and lived in an Ashram for a couple of months, where my mattress was thin, and very hard, on a simple slatted base. When I returned, I felt like my old bed was swallowing me, with no support. So I got rid of it, and bought a simple and very firm futon. I guess I got used to the super firm mattress.

I am open to try a latex type of mattress, however, as long as it is firm. But, like many others, I would not pay over a certain amount for any mattress.

I bet those mattresses are beast. I sleep on an IKEA mattress i found off craigslist. It's all good.

Investing in a Hastens is not only extremely comfortable but also very good for your health and well-being. To sleep soundly in a perfectly balanced bed, along with the fact that you are in 100% natural filling materials, far away from toxic out-gassing foams and synthetic fillers, is something we all deserve but seldom think about.

We spend 2/3 of our life making and spending money, yet the other 1/3 is often overlooked. Think about it,... the past ten years you spent an average of 3 1/2 years in bed. If when you lie down in your bed it's not with a smile and a great big "Ahhhh", something is horribly wrong.

Another fact that is often not known, true Hastens is the manufacturer of one of the most expensive beds in the world -The Hastens Vividus- , this however is just one of Hastens models. Hastens have many different models in many different price classes. All Hastens models come in different firmness, size and color. When it is time for you to invest in a new bed or mattress, go to a Hastens showroom first and learn what a real bed should feel like. After that, it will be easier for you to compare. Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have regarding Hastens or beds in general. http://www.best-rest.blogspot.com
Peter Tornell

a few years ago, when my husband brought home a brochure of duxiana beds and suggested we looked into buying one, I was appalled! $8000 for a bed? I thought he was crazy! (btw, now it is in the $16000 range due to weak dollar)

Now I would say it was one of the best investment we made. Good night sleep is worth of every penny. I would rather drive an old car and put money into where I spend 1/3 of my life and has impact on the other 2/3 of my life.

So I am a very happy duxiana bed customer.

I have been curious about Hastens and cannot imagine it would be "better" than dux beds.

Now I am on my vacation in Stockholm and staying at a friend's house.

I was surprised by their huge bed, very solid and "stuffy" looking.

I crashed in bed and had a really good night sleep. The next day I was happy to find out it was an Hastens bed. I think what you said "lumpy" and "cloudy" made sense to me. Similar to dux bed, I feel I am "wrapped", "hugged" and "loved" by my bed. I know it sounds strange, but that is how I feel.

Also the breathable feature is really awesome. You will not know how important until you try it. No irritation on the skin, no "weird" or "unexplainable" irritation to our nerve system (I guess the chemicals in other beds are the cause).

I think Hastens has taken the "natural" approach" further than duxiana.

Not only I sleep better but also I often have pleasant dreams.

A good bed is worth of every penny. I have lots of respect for the craftsmanship. And I would not say charging this much money is rip-off. The manufacturing cost is high, the marketing cost is high, the distribution cost is high, the bed is heavy, so shipping, storing and handling will be more costly...and the market is small for this kind of high-end products.

So if you can afford it (meaning you do have the money and you do value bed more than many other things), invest in it.

If you cannot afford it, there are alternatives out there for quality and value. But there is no need to elevate choice of bed to some other absurd level.

I have 7 more days to enjoy my Hastens and I can assure you I am not wasting any time.

The only drawback is it makes you want to go to bed early :)))

Travelrtw,

At last somebody with some common sense!

OPLOSSING VOOR DE KLACHTEN.Wij hebben ruim 2 jaar geleden een hastebed de luxe gekocht met massage met verstelbare rug en benen voor de prijs van 25000 euro.Vanaf begin doorzak problemen-rugklachten en er haast niet uit kunnen komen door de verzakking.Heb diverse mails naar hasten verstuurd en werd steeds gezecht moet wennen.Ik had gekozen voor 1 stevig en 1 midden matras.Mijn vrouw slaapt op haar logeer kamer op een bed van 20 jaar oud en goed.Ik zelf blijf het proberen maar is gewoon waardeloos.Ik had nog een oud bed waarvan ik de bodem(2 gedeelten) heb gelegd tussen de 2 matrassen van ons ,,hasten bed,,Dus nu een stuk steviger en mijn vrouw slaapt nu eindelijk eens weer naast mij.Het verstellen van hoofd en benen kan nu niet meer jammer genoeg.Ik nooit weer zo,n duur bed wat niks is,een slappehap.aanschaf 25000,euro en wil hem nu wel missen voor de liefhebber voor 10000,- euro.Een verlies post in nog geen 3 jaar van 15000 euro.Had voor dat geld wel in een ,,hotel,,kunnen slapen.Er zullen ook mensen zijn die het wel goed bevalt denk ik maar voor ons helemaal niks en de bereidwilligheid om het op te lossen bij ,,HASTEN,, is ver te zoeken..25 jaar garantie???.waarop?? Succes voor de mensen die ook doorzak problemen hebben,,misschien dit de oplossing